Mike Tyson

[Tyson.]

Other than Ali hes the greatest heavyweight of all time and P4P wise hes a top 10 ATG.

Youngest heavyweight champion and destroying all the challengers.

[turdleburgle]

I dont like him because hes a rapist for one thing and he's the most overrated fighter ever! Im not saying he was trash but he wasn't great by any means.douglas dominated and exposed him when tyson was in his prime,an old evander beat him up and then lewis finished him for good when they were at the same age.

[SBleeder]

This guy seems to stroke his veiny erection anytime a conversation about Mike Tyson appears. He doesn't know what he's talking about either, as he rambles out of either jealousy or some kind of fetish that's not yet listed. He has some kind of problem with the fact that circumstances dictated that Mike fell out of his prime officially after the Spinks fight and had been on a steady decline ever since and also believes that Mike Tyson isn't an ATG solely because he lost to Buster Douglas (two years after Mike's prime ended, by the way).

Wow, he "officially" fell out of his prime! My apologies; I must have missed the press conference where that was announced.

In fact, come to think of it, I don't remember anyone saying he was "past his prime", or anything close to it, after he knocked out Carl Williams in 93 seconds. It was only after Buster Douglas made Tyson his girlfriend that the excuse-makers flocked to declare Mike's prime as dead prior to the 1990.

He should not be taken seriously because his only arguments are:
1.) Mike Tyson sucks because he beat everyone he needed to beat in 1986-1988 but didn't have a time machine so he could go prove himself against Joe Louis or Muhammad Ali or Sonny Liston.

The only knock anyone has ever had on Rocky Marciano is that he didn't fight anyone great in their primes. The same can be said for Tyson. Meanwhile, he struggled against c-grade fighters like Quick Tillis and Tony Tucker. We don't need a time machine to know that if Tony Tucker could take four rounds from Tyson with a broken hand, any great fighter would have annihilated Tyson.

2.) He lost against Buster Douglas (two years out of his prime and on Buster's best night), but if Mike had of beaten Buster Douglas, Buster would be "just another bum" on Mike's resume.

Sorry, but a prime ends with age, experience, or injuries. Being lazy is being lazy. Again, were you telling people in 1989 that Tyson was past it?

3.) I hate Mike Tyson's personal life and continue to draw weird conclusions so therefore Mike Tyson was never a good fighter.

He was a skilled fighter, but not a great fighter. Great fighters overcome adversity.

He obviously needs help or at least a mother who loves him or something along those lines. The bottom line is that Mike Tyson was a rising great but fell off the rocket ship officially after the Spinks fight and was falling back down to earth ever since (Buster Douglas was when he hit earth). Mike was at 7/10 of his full potential on the night of the Spinks fight and had it not been for the factors involved and had he continued his prime indefinitely I believe that he would be at least top 10 ATG and top one or two heavyweight ATG.

Juvenile personal attacks notwithstanding, hopefully you will learn someday that great athletes possess more than skill:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SportsCentury

One quality possessed by great sportsmen, including great fighters, is an ability to overcome.

Feel free to worship a guy who cracked under the first signs of adversity.

"I'm not fightin' that f____ animal, if you love the m_____ so much, you fight him!'" - Mike Tyson's cowardly rant to Don King regarding George Foreman

[SBleeder]

I dont like him because hes a rapist for one thing and he's the most overrated fighter ever! Im not saying he was trash but he wasn't great by any means.douglas dominated and exposed him when tyson was in his prime,an old evander beat him up and then lewis finished him for good when they were at the same age.

Ring predicted that Tyson would knock Holyfield out in the first round. Tyson never once won a fight that he wasn't supposed to win, and except for Lewis, all of his losses were in fights that he was supposed to win decisively in.

[Toney616]

He knows how to show beauty queens who's boss, and he out-pointed the legendary Bonecrusher Smith. If Cus D'amato hadn't died and if Don King hadn't gotten involved with him and if he hadn't married Robin Givens and if Kevin Rooney had stayed with him and if he had trained hard and if he had laid off the Japanese hookers and if he hadn't had such a rough childhood and if there wasn't an ounce of adversity in his life and as long as he wasn't fighting a taller mobile fighter with a good jab and as long as he wasn't "past his prime" at age 22 than he could have beaten anyone. Everyone knows that if Cus D'amato hadn't died in 1985 Mike wouldn't have lost in 1990. Did I mention he needed Kevin Rooney in his corner 'cause he needs him too to be a decent fighter, also he should only fight matches in Catskill, New York that would be best, thanks.

Thats some serious hating there dude.

[Toney616]

Ring predicted that Tyson would knock Holyfield out in the first round. Tyson never once won a fight that he wasn't supposed to win, and except for Lewis, all of his losses were in fights that he was supposed to win decisively in.

Thats not fair, he was expected to win all of his fights except against Lewis

[Toney616]

He has some kind of problem with the fact that circumstances dictated that Mike fell out of his prime officially after the Spinks fight

I used to think that, but now I will say that his prime ended with his first stint in prison, so I would say post Ruddock II

[Toney616]

I dont like him because hes a rapist for one thing

How do you know he did it?

and he's the most overrated fighter ever!

Just because a fighter is overrated doesnt mean they are not a top fighter. It just means they are not as good as people think they are

Im not saying he was trash but he wasn't great by any means.douglas dominated and exposed him when tyson was in his prime,

That version of Dougla would of given any HW a hard time, if Bruno could give Lewis fits, just imagine what Douglas would of done to him. For the record there was talks for a Douglas-Lewis fight during Douglas's comeback.

an old evander beat him up and then lewis finished him for good when they were at the same age.

Is that the same Evander who gave Lewis a close fight during their rematch? Tyson was shot by the time he was dragged to court by Lewis and forced to face him.

[Toney616]

Likes:I thought he was a great, exciting fighter pre 91

Dislikes: He never really made any attempt post prison to get his life back on track (during his boxing career), way too self-destructive

[SBleeder]

Thats some serious hating there dude.

Yeah, it is.

Thats not fair, he was expected to win all of his fights except against Lewis

Fine. Suffice it to say that he lost several times to guys he should have easily beaten.

How do you know he did it?

No one knows anything. But the fact that he was proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of twelve is good enough to know with a high degree of certainty that he did it. Nobody questions whether Joey the crackhead is guilty when he's convicted under the same burden as Tyson was convicted.