List: Top 10 Greatest Black Heavyweights of All Time

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=frankenfrank;8979281]1. George Foreman
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Mike Tyson
5. Larry Holmes
6. Oliver McCall
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Joe Louis
9. Joe Frazier
10. Chris Byrd




11. Rid**** Bowe

12. Tony Tucker
13. Sam Peter
14. James Smith
15. James Douglas
16. Michael Spinks
17. Lamon Brewster
18. Sam Langford
19. Sony Liston
20. Frank Bruno














You can't be taken seriously when you rate fighters like Brewster and Peter over
Johnson and Sonny Liston.
And Tua top ten all time? That's just sill

[frankenfrank]

1. George Foreman
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Mike Tyson
5. Larry Holmes
6. Oliver McCall
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Joe Louis
9. Joe Frazier
10. Chris Byrd




11. Rid**** Bowe

12. Tony Tucker
13. Sam Peter
14. James Smith
15. James Douglas
16. Michael Spinks
17. Lamon Brewster
18. Sam Langford
19. Sony Liston
20. Frank Bruno

You can't be taken seriously when you rate fighters like Brewster and Peter over
Johnson and Sonny Liston.

Sam Peter is only 30 and look at who he fought already :
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko
Jameel McCline
Eddie Chambers
James Toney (*2)
Oleg Maskaev
Yanqui Diaz
Nagy Aguilera
Robert Hawkins
Julius Long
Jeremy Williams
Charles Shufford

and was stopped only once , held title already .

I can see why u think Liston can b ranked above Brewster , my reasoning there will not b as strong , but :
What is Liston's best win ? Lightheavyweight Floyd Patterson
Brewster's ? a reigning and defending Wladimir Klitschko

Liston's other "quality" wins ? Cleveland Williams *2 , Zora Folley and a decision over Eddie Machen whom was stopped by Ingemar Jhonson.

Lame. Poor . Weak.

Brewster's other quality wins ?
Golota , Krasniqi , a decision over Meehan (even) , even a stoppage over Cleveland Woods (was not picked because of his name although it turned out lookin good) and Luis Monaco (a still prime Luis Monaco) are worth more than 2 stoppages over Cleveland Williams. plus a KO of Danny Batchelder a stoppage over Nate Jones (avenged an amateurs loss) and a decision over Michael Sprott , an experienced boxer.

But I might somehow tolerate (sometimes) ranking Liston above Brewster.
But not above Peter , never.


Regarding Johnson he ducked Sam Langford , an overweight MW at most , more true an overweight WW or LMW , although the P4P GOAT .

Others here will probably be able 2 tell u more about who he ducked.

And he was KOd by Choynski , a MW , what a joke for a HW champion.

Ruiz is rightfully considered a weak champion because he lost decisions to roided Roy and James , and was KOd by monster Tua , but aren't Johnson's achievements even weaker than these ?

And Tua top ten all time? That's just sill

Look at who Tua beat and how , look at who Liston beat and how.
Tua beat dangerous HW contenders , Liston either beat fighters that would have been bums or journeymen at most in every other era than his own.
I won't even answer u rigorously about this one.

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=frankenfrank;9002588]Sam Peter is only 30 and look at who he fought already :
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko
Jameel McCline
Eddie Chambers
James Toney (*2)
Oleg Maskaev
Yanqui Diaz
Nagy Aguilera
Robert Hawkins
Julius Long
Jeremy Williams
Charles Shufford

and was stopped only once , held title already .

I can see why u think Liston can b ranked above Brewster , my reasoning there will not b as strong , but :
What is Liston's best win ? Lightheavyweight Floyd Patterson
Brewster's ? a reigning and defending Wladimir Klitschko

Liston's other "quality" wins ? Cleveland Williams *2 , Zora Folley and a decision over Eddie Machen whom was stopped by Ingemar Jhonson.

Lame. Poor . Weak.

Brewster's other quality wins ?
Golota , Krasniqi , a decision over Meehan (even) , even a stoppage over Cleveland Woods (was not picked because of his name although it turned out lookin good) and Luis Monaco (a still prime Luis Monaco) are worth more than 2 stoppages over Cleveland Williams. plus a KO of Danny Batchelder a stoppage over Nate Jones (avenged an amateurs loss) and a decision over Michael Sprott , an experienced boxer.

But I might somehow tolerate (sometimes) ranking Liston above Brewster.
But not above Peter , never.


Regarding Johnson he ducked Sam Langford , an overweight MW at most , more true an overweight WW or LMW , although the P4P GOAT .

Others here will probably be able 2 tell u more about who he ducked.

And he was KOd by Choynski , a MW , what a joke for a HW champion.

Ruiz is rightfully considered a weak champion because he lost decisions to roided Roy and James , and was KOd by monster Tua , but aren't Johnson's achievements even weaker than these ?



Look at who Tua beat and how , look at who Liston beat and how.
Tua beat dangerous HW contenders , Liston either beat fighters that would have been









One of the worst post I've ever read here. Either you're extremely ignorant or your trolling. I hope it's the latter for your sake. I won't waste anymore time here.

[StarshipTrooper]

Sam Peter is only 30 and look at who he fought already :
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko
Jameel McCline
Eddie Chambers
James Toney (*2)
Oleg Maskaev
Yanqui Diaz
Nagy Aguilera
Robert Hawkins
Julius Long
Jeremy Williams
Charles Shufford

and was stopped only once , held title already .

I can see why u think Liston can b ranked above Brewster , my reasoning there will not b as strong , but :
What is Liston's best win ? Lightheavyweight Floyd Patterson
Brewster's ? a reigning and defending Wladimir Klitschko

Liston's other "quality" wins ? Cleveland Williams *2 , Zora Folley and a decision over Eddie Machen whom was stopped by Ingemar Jhonson.

Lame. Poor . Weak.

Brewster's other quality wins ?
Golota , Krasniqi , a decision over Meehan (even) , even a stoppage over Cleveland Woods (was not picked because of his name although it turned out lookin good) and Luis Monaco (a still prime Luis Monaco) are worth more than 2 stoppages over Cleveland Williams. plus a KO of Danny Batchelder a stoppage over Nate Jones (avenged an amateurs loss) and a decision over Michael Sprott , an experienced boxer.

But I might somehow tolerate (sometimes) ranking Liston above Brewster.
But not above Peter , never.


Regarding Johnson he ducked Sam Langford , an overweight MW at most , more true an overweight WW or LMW , although the P4P GOAT .

Others here will probably be able 2 tell u more about who he ducked.

And he was KOd by Choynski , a MW , what a joke for a HW champion.

Ruiz is rightfully considered a weak champion because he lost decisions to roided Roy and James , and was KOd by monster Tua , but aren't Johnson's achievements even weaker than these ?


Look at who Tua beat and how , look at who Liston beat and how.
Tua beat dangerous HW contenders , Liston either beat fighters that would have been bums or journeymen at most in every other era than his own.
I won't even answer u rigorously about this one.

In perusing the posts from this thread I'm left with one question: Is it even REMOTELY possible for you to make a post that ISN'T ******ed? :rolleyes9:

Poet

[Vadrigar.]

One of the worst post I've ever read here. Either you're extremely ignorant or your trolling. I hope it's the latter for your sake. I won't waste anymore time here.

Just ignore this ******ed troll. If you want a good laugh take a look at his p4p list.

[Sam Donald]

Just ignore this ******ed troll. If you want a good laugh take a look at his p4p list.

haha cosign.....

[Vadrigar.]

haha cosign.....

have you seen it?

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