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  • #21
    What I found kinda funny over the years is that lots of people keep talking about how clever the rope-a-dope tactic was. I never thought it was clever to let one of the biggest punchers ever hit you, guard up or not. It was his only chance though. And I can't think of a lot of other fighters who were able to take the amount of punishment Ali took before his chance came. The thing to admire about Ali that night is not his ring-intelligence or his boxing qualities but his determination, heart and thoughness.
    Ali's "rope-a-dope" while effective might not have been the smart thing to do.

    Muhammad Ali's number one greatest boxing attribute, bar none, was his ability to take a beating. I've watched all his fights, and you would swear the man was made of rubber. He made it look like he wasn't hurt, but throughout the years it hurt him.The accumulation of punishment he absorbed in the ring has made him what he is today.

    For that reason, I have to respect his dedication to his craft.He paid a heavy price to be called the greatest.

    Now, on to George Foreman. We have to give respect to George for learning from his mistakes. In his second career, he played to his own strengths.

    George was so much bigger the second time around, that I don't know if it were possible to knock him off of his feet. He never got excited, and walked his man down with that big jab. He still had fairly quick hands and he never wasted any energy.

    I believe I watched him fight Adelson Rodriguez? and that's the first time I had seen a man's eyes crossed after being whacked.The man hit hard. He also took alot of punishment for an old duffer. Holyfield drilled him som many times, I couldn't believe George was still standing and throwing back.

    Big George had the big gun and when you are old and fat, that's what you need to win the title--- just ask Michael Moorer!

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    • #22
      Ali was willing to basically die to win...
      which he did, and that's why he has parkinsons now

      So technically he was willing to give up a healthy life so he can win...

      the definition of a WARRIOR!

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      • #23
        "dude" great post.

        Originally posted by ThaGreatest
        Ali was willing to basically die to win...
        which he did, and that's why he has parkinsons now

        So technically he was willing to give up a healthy life so he can win...

        the definition of a WARRIOR!
        yep it definetely looks like that. but was it worth it?, i doubt it if you ask me. btw i think his fights aginst frazier hurt him most all those deadly left hook from frazier cant be healty.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ThaGreatest
          Ali was willing to basically die to win...
          which he did, and that's why he has parkinsons now

          So technically he was willing to give up a healthy life so he can win...

          the definition of a WARRIOR!

          Absolutely. Anyone who doesnt respect Ali needs to think about that. I see alot of Ali haters these days, because they cant handle the FACT that he would own their favourite fighters. Respect the man for the marvel he was.

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          • #25
            I disagree. I think Foreman fought everyone that way. He was and is the MOST over rated heavyweight of all time. He always fought with those big freakin haymakers. Sure he hit hard, but as far as the sweet science he was more like kindergarten coloring. The way he fought was disgusting. I think a surgeon like a Marvin Hagler could have given him fits. Remember Jimmy Young? A small very mobile guy who made big George look like the inept fool he really was.

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            • #26
              IMO, alot of boxing fans don't give credit to Ali for dominating and winning this fight. Rather,alot of fans say that Foreman lost the fight because he abandoned his usual style. I've watched this fight many times and believe that Ali dominated this fight start to finish. Basically Foreman couldn't hit Ali with any clean punches; but Ali was just the opposite, peppering Foreman's face with crisp, fast, and powerful combinations. Foreman was not only exhausted from punching himself out, but also from the accumulation of Ali's punches.

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              • #27
                Foreman fought ****** that fight, he didnt fight like a bum

                He should have fought at a more measured pace

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by BostonGuy
                  IMO, alot of boxing fans don't give credit to Ali for dominating and winning this fight. Rather,alot of fans say that Foreman lost the fight because he abandoned his usual style. I've watched this fight many times and believe that Ali dominated this fight start to finish. Basically Foreman couldn't hit Ali with any clean punches; but Ali was just the opposite, peppering Foreman's face with crisp, fast, and powerful combinations. Foreman was not only exhausted from punching himself out, but also from the accumulation of Ali's punches.
                  finally somoene who saw what i saw...ali was winning this fight, then he knocked foreman out

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Foreman
                    An unusual confluence of events made Ali's win possible. Foreman getting cut in training and not being allowed to leave the country. Very loose ropes. The possibility of Foreman having been drugged before the fight. Ali's trainer, Angelo Dundee believes that he was. And really was George's game plan all that bad? Nobody could have expected a fighter to last 8 rds with Foreman by just standing there and taking punishment. There was a fair amount of luck involved that Ali avoided taking a shot that he couldn't take. That Ali refused to give Foreman a rematch speaks volumes of what Ali thought of his chances.
                    i would like to see dundee's quote where he says that foreman may have been drugged before the fight...it wasnt luck at all that ali avoided foreman's big punches, that was his style.
                    I love how people talk about how ali wouldnt give foreman a rematch...back that up, i want to see proof that ali wouldnt grant foreman a rematch, something issued by ali's camp perhaps?
                    back up what you say please

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                    • #30
                      Ali fought a brilliant technical fight and plain and simple outclassed George. His incredible determination and heart didn't go astray. It took a game man to even get in the ring with Foreman after his blowouts of Norton and Frazier. Ali turned up to win, and absolutely nothing was going to stop him.

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