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Originally posted by Morales_ View PostCalzaghe was past prime when he was dropped by Hopkins/Jones. Calz was moving up in weight for these fights and his prime is not at LHW. He was only dropped once at SMW, where he then came of the canvus to KO his opponent. His chin was good.
Calzaghe was unlucky to be in an era after Eubank, Collins, Benn and Watson. Most say that Calzaghe would have beaten those fighters in thier prime.
Lacy wasnt a C class fighter, he was touted as the new mike tyson. Its the beating that Calz gave him and the injuries that turned him into a C class fighter.
Calzaghe has a better resume than Mccellan does.
lacy never beat anyone, simple as that. he was a prospect who got outclassed everytime he fought a world class oponent. had he beaten a single world class fighter before joe got to him u could say the beating joe dished out ruined him. but he didnt, lacy never did ****. some writer comparing him to tyson means nothing. WHO DID HE BEAT!? nobody, hense he should be considered a nobody.
mcclellan has a better win than anything on calzaghes resume, julian jackson. and overall i think their resumes are about equal. even if we say calzaghe is the better fighter, styles make fights. joe is simply too sloppy, hes a southpaw who squares up leaving himself wide open for the straight right and mccellan had a pretty decent one of those.
u mentioned in your other post that calzaghe always came forward, that would be his downfall in this fight. he couldnt box mcclellan for 12 rounds without getting chin checked and if he ever opnened up and tried to hurt him (which he wouldnt be able to) he would get flattened even quicker.
McClellan by KNOCKOUT!
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I can fully understand why this is split to be honest,its a very tough call
Some people are overrating G-man due to his power and some are overrating calzaghe but i think people need to stop acting like their word is gospel when its a fantasy fight ffs
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Originally posted by Morales_ View PostCalzaghe was past prime when he was dropped by Hopkins/Jones. Calz was moving up in weight for these fights and his prime is not at LHW. He was only dropped once at SMW, where he then came of the canvus to KO his opponent. His chin was good.
Calzaghe was unlucky to be in an era after Eubank, Collins, Benn and Watson. Most say that Calzaghe would have beaten those fighters in thier prime.
Lacy wasnt a C class fighter, he was touted as the new mike tyson. Its the beating that Calz gave him and the injuries that turned him into a C class fighter.
Calzaghe has a better resume than Mccellan does.
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Good post...........
Hey man. This is a good post here. J.C. is a good fighter for today but let's look at the facts. He is over-rated. PERIOD! His claim to fame was an old HOPKINS/JONES. Outside of those fights, KESSLER was his toughest fight. HOPKINS put him down with a sneaky right hand because he comes straight forward. The same with JONES except he missed him and caught him with the elbow, but he basically caught him with same punch HOPKINS did. G.M.'s punch was a gift. He fought better fighters, was in a better era, and I think he stretches SLAPPY JOE. J.C. had feathers in his gloves and that would have been a problem when facing a fighter who was as relentless as G.M. His chin was good but wasn't good enough to not be K.O.ed by a puncher so......G.M. by K.O. Don't know which round but it wouldn't have been a long, long fight.Last edited by GOD-FR33; 07-21-2010, 05:13 PM.
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G-mans's best wins:
- Mugabi who had been Koed 1 year earlier.
- Julian Jackson x2.
- Jay Bell a guy who never challenged for a title bar his fight with G-man
So in effect G-man only has one good win which is Jackson.
The vast majority of his resume is bums or journeymen.
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Originally posted by TheMagicMan View PostYou clearly have never watched Joe Calzaghe fight, your opinion is worthless, delete your account, start over. Who has ever had to chase Joe down? Just tell me a moment in a fight where Joe was retreating? In 46 fights, just one moment where he wasnt coming forward. It didnt matter if he was just knocked down, if he was killing a big puncher like Eubank on the cards, Kessler etc...Joe always came forward. So the fact that you say someone would have to chase him means you know nothing about boxing.
EDIT: Oh, right. The thread. McClellan wins by mid-round KO.
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Originally posted by Morales_ View PostG-mans's best wins:
- Mugabi who had been Koed 1 year earlier.
- Julian Jackson x2.
- Jay Bell a guy who never challenged for a title bar his fight with G-man
So in effect G-man only has one good win which is Jackson.
The vast majority of his resume is bums or journeymen.
Calzaghe - UD
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Originally posted by Morales_ View PostCalzaghe was past prime when he was dropped by Hopkins/Jones.
Calzaghe was post-prime when he fought Roy Jones Jr and Bernard Hopkins. Fair enough. I agree with that statement. Now let's look at the parrallels.
Hopkins was 43 years old and Joe 36. Hopkins was 7 years Joe's' senior.
Roy was 3 years Calazghe's senior, was past prime and had already suffered 2 KO losses. Roy was not only past prime but shot.
Calz was moving up in weight for these fights and his prime is not at LHW. He was only dropped once at SMW, where he then came of the canvus to KO his opponent. His chin was good.
Prior to his fight with Hopkins, Calzaghe had fought 10 fights as a Light-Heavyweight. Hopkins had fought 2 fights at Light-heavyweight. Not to mention Hopkins was a career Middleweight.
Calzaghe's chin was good, relative to the opposition he fought. Name me 1 fighter Joe fought who was a bigger puncher than McClellan?
Calzaghe was unlucky to be in an era after Eubank, Collins, Benn and Watson. Most say that Calzaghe would have beaten those fighters in thier prime.
Lacy wasnt a C class fighter, he was touted as the new mike tyson. Its the beating that Calz gave him and the injuries that turned him into a C class fighter.
Calzaghe has a better resume than Mccellan does.Last edited by Stone Roses!; 07-23-2010, 02:15 AM.
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