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  • #11
    Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
    He was only dropped once at SMW
    Twice, actually.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
      Calzaghe was past prime when he was dropped by Hopkins/Jones. Calz was moving up in weight for these fights and his prime is not at LHW. He was only dropped once at SMW, where he then came of the canvus to KO his opponent. His chin was good.

      Calzaghe was unlucky to be in an era after Eubank, Collins, Benn and Watson. Most say that Calzaghe would have beaten those fighters in thier prime.

      Lacy wasnt a C class fighter, he was touted as the new mike tyson. Its the beating that Calz gave him and the injuries that turned him into a C class fighter.

      Calzaghe has a better resume than Mccellan does.
      Mclellan fought several guys who had good chins. he knocked them out, and although calzaghe did prove he had a good chin he didnt prove he had a hagler like chin which would be necessary to deal with geralds power.

      lacy never beat anyone, simple as that. he was a prospect who got outclassed everytime he fought a world class oponent. had he beaten a single world class fighter before joe got to him u could say the beating joe dished out ruined him. but he didnt, lacy never did ****. some writer comparing him to tyson means nothing. WHO DID HE BEAT!? nobody, hense he should be considered a nobody.

      mcclellan has a better win than anything on calzaghes resume, julian jackson. and overall i think their resumes are about equal. even if we say calzaghe is the better fighter, styles make fights. joe is simply too sloppy, hes a southpaw who squares up leaving himself wide open for the straight right and mccellan had a pretty decent one of those.

      u mentioned in your other post that calzaghe always came forward, that would be his downfall in this fight. he couldnt box mcclellan for 12 rounds without getting chin checked and if he ever opnened up and tried to hurt him (which he wouldnt be able to) he would get flattened even quicker.

      McClellan by KNOCKOUT!

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      • #13
        I can fully understand why this is split to be honest,its a very tough call

        Some people are overrating G-man due to his power and some are overrating calzaghe but i think people need to stop acting like their word is gospel when its a fantasy fight ffs

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
          Calzaghe was past prime when he was dropped by Hopkins/Jones. Calz was moving up in weight for these fights and his prime is not at LHW. He was only dropped once at SMW, where he then came of the canvus to KO his opponent. His chin was good.

          Calzaghe was unlucky to be in an era after Eubank, Collins, Benn and Watson. Most say that Calzaghe would have beaten those fighters in thier prime.

          Lacy wasnt a C class fighter, he was touted as the new mike tyson. Its the beating that Calz gave him and the injuries that turned him into a C class fighter.

          Calzaghe has a better resume than Mccellan does.
          i think it's just the ****** yanks, they've seen his only two fights in america and think he has a crap chin

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          • #15
            Good post...........

            Hey man. This is a good post here. J.C. is a good fighter for today but let's look at the facts. He is over-rated. PERIOD! His claim to fame was an old HOPKINS/JONES. Outside of those fights, KESSLER was his toughest fight. HOPKINS put him down with a sneaky right hand because he comes straight forward. The same with JONES except he missed him and caught him with the elbow, but he basically caught him with same punch HOPKINS did. G.M.'s punch was a gift. He fought better fighters, was in a better era, and I think he stretches SLAPPY JOE. J.C. had feathers in his gloves and that would have been a problem when facing a fighter who was as relentless as G.M. His chin was good but wasn't good enough to not be K.O.ed by a puncher so......G.M. by K.O. Don't know which round but it wouldn't have been a long, long fight.
            Last edited by GOD-FR33; 07-21-2010, 05:13 PM.

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            • #16
              Geralds resume is terrible. calzaghe has a better record.

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              • #17
                G-mans's best wins:
                • Mugabi who had been Koed 1 year earlier.
                • Julian Jackson x2.
                • Jay Bell a guy who never challenged for a title bar his fight with G-man

                So in effect G-man only has one good win which is Jackson.

                The vast majority of his resume is bums or journeymen.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by TheMagicMan View Post
                  You clearly have never watched Joe Calzaghe fight, your opinion is worthless, delete your account, start over. Who has ever had to chase Joe down? Just tell me a moment in a fight where Joe was retreating? In 46 fights, just one moment where he wasnt coming forward. It didnt matter if he was just knocked down, if he was killing a big puncher like Eubank on the cards, Kessler etc...Joe always came forward. So the fact that you say someone would have to chase him means you know nothing about boxing.
                  Jeff Lacy tried. Joe was backing up the whole time. He ****ing pummeled Lacy, but he was still backing away. And that's probably - **** that, that is Calzaghe's best performance. So, not only do you not really know boxing as a whole, you don't even really know your fellatio partner. So YOU delete your account, YOU don't get to start over. Just leave.

                  EDIT: Oh, right. The thread. McClellan wins by mid-round KO.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
                    G-mans's best wins:
                    • Mugabi who had been Koed 1 year earlier.
                    • Julian Jackson x2.
                    • Jay Bell a guy who never challenged for a title bar his fight with G-man

                    So in effect G-man only has one good win which is Jackson.

                    The vast majority of his resume is bums or journeymen.
                    Correct


                    Calzaghe - UD

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Morales_ View Post
                      Calzaghe was past prime when he was dropped by Hopkins/Jones.
                      Ok a few things:

                      Calzaghe was post-prime when he fought Roy Jones Jr and Bernard Hopkins. Fair enough. I agree with that statement. Now let's look at the parrallels.

                      Hopkins was 43 years old and Joe 36. Hopkins was 7 years Joe's' senior.
                      Roy was 3 years Calazghe's senior, was past prime and had already suffered 2 KO losses. Roy was not only past prime but shot.

                      Calz was moving up in weight for these fights and his prime is not at LHW. He was only dropped once at SMW, where he then came of the canvus to KO his opponent. His chin was good.
                      Neither Hopkins or Roy's prime was at Light-Heavyweight also, therefore that statement is redundant.

                      Prior to his fight with Hopkins, Calzaghe had fought 10 fights as a Light-Heavyweight. Hopkins had fought 2 fights at Light-heavyweight. Not to mention Hopkins was a career Middleweight.

                      Calzaghe's chin was good, relative to the opposition he fought. Name me 1 fighter Joe fought who was a bigger puncher than McClellan?





                      Calzaghe was unlucky to be in an era after Eubank, Collins, Benn and Watson. Most say that Calzaghe would have beaten those fighters in thier prime.
                      Most can say whatever they want. Doesn't change the fact most of Joe's notable wins were against Old, Past Prime opposition.

                      Lacy wasnt a C class fighter, he was touted as the new mike tyson. Its the beating that Calz gave him and the injuries that turned him into a C class fighter.

                      Calzaghe has a better resume than Mccellan does.
                      Lacy was exposed as just that. A C-Class fighter. Furthermore nobody is refuting the fact Joe has a better resume than Gerald. We are discussing a head-to-head match-up.
                      Last edited by Stone Roses!; 07-23-2010, 02:15 AM.

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