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  • #41
    Originally posted by TheMagicMan View Post
    Wait, so Ali was before his time? So was Wlad when he had his losses and hes been the most dominant of any HW ever. No one can even compete, So Wlad is the best ever. Also the liston fights were fixed, and Ali was in a total draw with Liston the first fight. We all know this. Uhh, how did Ali take a better punch than Vitali, Vits never been down, Ali got dropped by Wepner within 3 months of the Foreman fight. Youre a joke.
    I'm a joke? Do you want to see the picture of Wepner standing on Ali's foot? That is what caused the knock down.Your really bright,Lol..Your a clown.You count Wepner's knockdown of Ali? Your the only(And i mean only) boxing fan i have ever heard of who counts that knock down.That shows what a fool you are,Lol

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    • #42
      Todays fighters don't have to face the best in their division. They get a title belt and protect their record. How can anyone compare a fighter that cleaned out a division to a modern fighter that obtained one a piece of the title and never even proved he's the best at his weight by unifing. I don't how good he looked, consider the opposition.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by cooper5 View Post
        Todays fighters don't have to face the best in their division. They get a title belt and protect their record. How can anyone compare a fighter that cleaned out a division to a modern fighter that obtained one a piece of the title and never even proved he's the best at his weight by unifing. I don't how good he looked, consider the opposition.
        1. Todays fights arent rigged like past fights. Liston vs. Ali 2. Every fight Carnera fought...for example.

        2. Plenty of fights unify and take over their division or multiple divisons. Wlad for example owns the HW division, takes on all challengers...literally all you have to do is challenge a Klitschko and agree to their terms and they will fight you if youre under 40.

        3. Was Wepners knockdown of Ali ruled a knockdown? Yep. You lose.

        Oh and as for taking on all comers, you mean like how ALi ducked a rematch wtih Foreman and Young? Yet wouldnt have had a career unless given a rematch by Norton and Joe.

        Heres why less people in the U.S. box, want to know the main reason. Its called specialization. Back in the day guys like Marciano would play baseball or guys would play football and some track and also be boxers. Also tons of guys who worked construction or down at the docks would register as a pro and take the occassional bar room fight in order to pay for dinner some nights. Now adays, if you want to be a pro boxer you usually had a good amateur career, its all you do. You think Joe Calzaghe played soccer. Heck RJJ apparently was good at BBall, but he wasnt able to do the NBA and box. Guys specialize now, they specialize starting around 14, if not earlier.

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        • #44
          Wow, for someone that claims to be a lawyer, you really talk like one. You also have trouble spelling and with run on sentences.

          Not many lawyers I know talk like a young punk as you do either, nor do they throw out their credentials on internet forums to try and act like they are rich and great looking as you have done.

          All the boxing talk aside, you sound like such an idiot, do you really think anyone believes you are who you present yourself to be? Every time you write some childish insults you make yourself look dumber and dumber.

          BTW, if you think Vitali and/or Wlad have fought anywhere near the same sort of competition that guys like Ali, Foreman, Frazier did, you are even dumber than you make yourself out to look, and that's saying something!

          Why don't you just go away, you are clearly not welcome here, and you make yourself look more and more foolish each time you result to your petty insults.
          Last edited by MasterODisaster; 07-14-2010, 07:54 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by TheMagicMan View Post
            it also doesnt say how many people are boxing in NYC, or practice boxing, it just says how many shows there are. If it had numbers like, back in 1910 there were an estimated 800,000 people who called themselves boxers living in NYC, today there are a mere 400,000...then it could make an argument, but it doesnt do that.
            Actually, that has been shown and yes, the numbers were massively in favour of boxing back then. Quite literally there is something like 1/8th or less the amount of pro registered fighters today compared to back then. Can't remember the exact numbers but it was a staggering difference. Back then=1920's/1930's.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by TheMagicMan View Post
              im a lawyer
              Since you're a lawyer, you'll be able to tell me what the most troublesome topic for most people on the Bar Exam is in the subject of property. It has to do with interests being void after certain time periods.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                Since you're a lawyer, you'll be able to tell me what the most troublesome topic for most people on the Bar Exam is in the subject of property. It has to do with interests being void after certain time periods.
                RAP or the rule against perps baby. Suck on it.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                  Since you're a lawyer, you'll be able to tell me what the most troublesome topic for most people on the Bar Exam is in the subject of property. It has to do with interests being void after certain time periods.
                  and if you need me to break down the rule against perpetuities for you I can. You know the whole 21 years...Fertile octogenarians, precotious toddlers all that shi.... However, being from Ohio rap wasnt really covered on the bar, just as theory in law school, as we follow the wait and see approach which means you dont really have to deal with determining vesting and shi, just had to know 21 years, vest or strike. Anyways, I am a lawyer and as a lawyer I can tell you that Shannon Briggs would KO1 Ali

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by TheMagicMan View Post
                    I am a lawyer and as a lawyer I can tell you that Shannon Briggs would KO1 Ali
                    Shannon Briggs would KO1 Ali ! Well, i hope your a lawyer and since being a lawyer has nothing to do with boxing you can give your opinion on a subject that you know nothing about.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Megamasterking View Post
                      Shannon Briggs would KO1 Ali ! Well, i hope your a lawyer and since being a lawyer has nothing to do with boxing you can give your opinion on a subject that you know nothing about.
                      Let me ask you this, doyou think Ali took any of Foreman's arm punches? If he did since Foreman threw more, especially in the early rounds and in the 5th, certainly Foreman should have been judged to win A round. At least 1 measely round. So either, 1. The judges were bought or 2. Ali never took a clean Foreman shot...so which is it?

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