Did Foreman vs Frazier I end in a knockout?

[dde91]

It was just like how Hopkins vs. Trinidad ended. Trinidad beat the count but the ref stopped it.

[dde91]

which is like saying Lennox Lewis was KOd twice but he never fought Bowe, Witherspoon, Sanders, Wlad, Ruiz, Foreman, Moorer or Byrd... who knows how many knockdowns and stoppage losses he would have suffered then?

or you could say the same for every heavyweight champion in boxing history... The bottom line is Frazier was never Knocked out where the referee had to count ten over him so it has to be accepted that his chin was granite because the sports hardest ever punching heavyweight champion could not put him to sleep for 10 seconds unlike a long list of other heavyweight champions.

Plus he ducked Tyson for a whole decade before fighting him when he was way past primed.

[JAB5239]

The new "nightowl" mantra!!

[nightowl]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/pr...m&pmid=1076823

You never PM'd me, huh? It all started with you PMing this pic after I red k'd you for idiocy. So, you've already been caught in lie #1, should I keep posting links to the rest of the conversation that went almost exactly as I stated and with me never saying ANYTHING about "stop bragging about Frazier getting KTFO."?

You've also ducked the question about Vitaly's TKO loss to Lewis. Did you consider him to be knocked out even though he was ready, willing and able to keep fighting when the doctor stopped the fight?

That link leads to nothing.. it's invalid.

How can you expose me for lying if you haven't got any proof? But you'd probably just edit some picture and claim that you exposed me like the liar that you are. So go ahead. Photoshop a fake private message if it makes you feel better.

Yes, it's still considered a knockout on Lewis' part. Now, let me ask you something in return: was Vitali strutting around the ring on shaky legs like Frazier was? Did he not know what universe he was in? Did he get dropped six times in only two rounds?

I'm also waiting for you to respond to my post where I clarified the differences between a KO and a TKO but still proved they were both knockouts.

BTW, while I was away from the computer for 15 minutes, your friend mMuhammadm messaged me twice saying I got "owned". Is this what you do? You get people to boost your confidence in debates? Pathetic.

[JAB5239]

That link leads to nothing.. it's invalid.

How can you expose me for lying if you haven't got any proof? But you'd probably just edit some picture and claim that you exposed me like the liar that you are. So go ahead. Photoshop a fake private message if it makes you feel better.

Lol, thats the thing, I post a direct link so there could be no question who is lying here. You've been caught. Grow up and take your medicine like a man.

Yes, it's still considered a knockout on Lewis' part. Now, let me ask you something in return: was Vitali strutting around the ring on shaky legs like Frazier was? Did he not know what universe he was in? Did he get dropped six times in only two rounds?

No, it isn't considered a KO, and it directly contradicts what you have stated. V could have gone on, he wasn't allowed to. Big difference in not being allowed and not being able.

I'm also waiting for you to respond to my post where I clarified the differences between a KO and a TKO but still proved they were both knockouts.

The difference has been explained to you multiple times. If they were the same thing than WHY is there a separate distinction between the two?

BTW, while I was away from the computer for 15 minutes, your friend mMuhammadm messaged me twice saying I got "owned". Is this what you do? You get people to boost your confidence in debates? Pathetic.

I have no problem with mMuhammadm, but I don't think I can recall even 5 times where I've responded to him, yet you think I've somehow convinced him to attack you? Paranoid much? Couldn't it just be that what escapes you is obvious to the more intelligent people of this forum who don't need to make up lies?

[JAB5239]

That link leads to nothing.. it's invalid.

How can you expose me for lying if you haven't got any proof? But you'd probably just edit some picture and claim that you exposed me like the liar that you are. So go ahead. Photoshop a fake private message if it makes you feel better.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/pr...m&pmid=1076831

[CarlosG815]

I have no problem with mMuhammadm, but I don't think I can recall even 5 times where I've responded to him, yet you think I've somehow convinced him to attack you? Paranoid much? Couldn't it just be that what escapes you is obvious to the more intelligent people of this forum who don't need to make up lies?

Don't even waste the time man. Nobody is taking this dude with more than a grain of salt.

[nightowl]

I have no problem with mMuhammadm, but I don't think I can recall even 5 times where I've responded to him, yet you think I've somehow convinced him to attack you? Paranoid much? Couldn't it just be that what escapes you is obvious to the more intelligent people of this forum who don't need to make up lies?

I already told you that your link leads to nothing. Only you can view it because it's your private message. No one else can, computer genius.

It actually is considered a knockout. Perhaps when you enter reality, you'll realize it. Unless you would want him to lose an eye, he was not able to continue. So what if he wanted to? All fighters would.

I've already explained to you and your dim-witted friend the definitions of a KO and TKO. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

What lies? I'm just asking a simple question: did Foreman knock out Frazier in their first fight? Everyone knows the answer, but many won't say it.

I don't know what you did with your last post, but you should learn how to quote properly like every other poster.

[BKM-]

The sport of boxing has specifically made terms for these diffirent types of fight endings, you know.

[JAB5239]

I already told you that your link leads to nothing. Only you can view it because it's your private message. No one else can, computer genius.

Never claimed to be any kind of computer genius. In fact I know hardly anything about them. I do know enough to take a photo of the picture and messages you sent though. Would you like to keep lying?

It actually is considered a knockout.

Than why was it recorded as a TKO, when technically he could have continued?

Perhaps when you enter reality, you'll realize it. Unless you would want him to lose an eye, he was not able to continue. So what if he wanted to? All fighters would.

I don't wish ill fortune on any fighter and I believe the right call was made, but V wanted and was able to continue if he was allowed to. at no time was he not cognizant of where and what he was doing.

I've already explained to you and your dim-witted friend the definitions of a KO and TKO. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.

No, you explained YOUR definitions. Everyone else see's it differently yet you have the nerve to call anyone else "dim-witted"?

What lies? I'm just asking a simple question: did Foreman knock out Frazier in their first fight? Everyone knows the answer, but many won't say it.

He stopped him by TKO. If it was the same thing it would be called the same thing. So why isn't it?

I don't know what you did with your last post, but you should learn how to quote properly like every other poster.

Should I? You should figure out a way to respond without whining about it....."computer genius".