What would Prime Tyson vs Prime Tua be like?

[Vadrigar.]

deny. It has to do with your posts in this thread just like your posts in other threads have to do with your posts in this thread.
Hope you are able to read and understand what I write , but I know you have problems with understanding what you (barely) read.

provide good evidence of that.

[frankenfrank]

provide good evidence of that.

your posts.

[Vadrigar.]

your posts.

No. Try again.

[frankenfrank]

No. Try again.

I succeeded the first time , why should I try again ?

[Vadrigar.]

I succeeded the first time , why should I try again ?

No you didn't. Try again.

Once again I state: provide evidence that my avatar has to do with my posts on this thread.

[Toney616]

And got lucky when he stopped Corrie Sanders , Jeff Wooden and ****y Ryann
, Terrence Lewis , Rob Calloway , Kali Meehan and Zuri Lawrence and decisioned Ross Puritty , Obed Sullivan , Marion Wilson , Monte Barrett and Alfred Cole , and drew with David Tua James Toney.
He should have filled the lottery instead of boxing. :yep:

Rahman:
Jeff Wooden: won 18 (KO 11) + lost 8 (KO 3) + drawn 0
never won a legit belt
Corrie Sanders:won 42 (KO 31) + lost 4 (KO 4)
beat Wladimir Klitschko to get the WBO belt, lost it during his 1st defense to Vitali
****y Ryann:55 (KO 44) + lost 10 (KO 6) + drawn 0
never won a legit belt

I cant be bothered to do the rest but the facts should speak for themselves.
With the exception of Saunders those guys are basically journeymen as well. He drew with one of the worst versions of Toney and you claim that as an achievement?

He just decisioned Holyfield , was the first (and yet the only) to stop Vassily Jirov , stopped an undefeated Francois Botha , decisioned an undefeated Vaughn Bean , outpointed Axel Schulz , decisioned James Smith , stopped Bert Cooper , stopped Alex Stewart and decisioned a 6'10" 275lbs Mike White (whom stopped James Douglas) a 14 moths after skipping the CW division in his way from 175lbs.

Moorer:
That was won of the worst versions of Holyfield, who was suffering from heart problems. It was obvious from that performance that Moorer was never going to have the belt for long.

Jirov was past prime after his war with Toney and had no business in the hw divison. as his hw record shows

The rest of the guys you mentioned are not very good

but held a belt and was a top contender for a while.

Ruiz is dreadful, got blasted in in 20 seconds against Tua, he stunk out the ring with his hitting and holding.

But is a top 10 all time HW.

Doesn't matter he is still is boring as hell. Ducked Byrd and messed Vitali around

So Jeff Wooden whom went the distance with Tua and Michael Grant is not even half decent.
Not to mention Hassim Rahman whom he stopped twice , your standards are a bit high , you know ?.

Wooden, Grant and Rahman are not very good. The guy was getting koed by journeyman as well

I rate boxers on their skill set and resume, none of these fighters you mentioned fit my criteria for being a decent fighter.

So maybe he had a problem in that fight , but what about his late stoppages ?

He was supposed to have been in the best conditon of his life he came into the ring weighing 233, his lightest weight in years. During the fight the commentators made a big deal of how he trained so hard for that fight.

Just because he koed guys late in fights doesnt mean he doesnt fade either its not the same thing. Maybe those guys gassed more than he did for example or made a mistake later on in those fights.

So he suddenly forgot how to fight ?

Dude to keep your skills at their peak you have to constantly practice them, or you will forget them. I shouldn't have to mention this to you.

more than 10 pro fights of his , and then a few amateur fights as well.

Which ones? Also were they fights when he was still with Rooney?

You just asked how many of his fights did I watch , so how did you know I haven't watched enough.

It depends on the period the fights took place, this thread is about Prime Tyson so any fight without Rooney in his corner doesnt count.
You have said you have watched 10 fights which include Holyfield, Lewis and Douglas? None of these fights took place during his prime

(1) Almost every opponent of his during his prime especially was terrified of Tyson .

Which ones?

(2) None of Tyson's opponents had Tua's chin
(3) None of Tyson's opponents had Tua's power : Tua will not need a lot (of landed hooks), just a few.

You have yet to make a case for Tua's power being greater than Ruddock's. What top fighters has Tua ever koed? None. The best fighters he faced all went the distance with him, that in itself should tell you something

I won't watch the entire fight at this moment just to reply this question.
Basically (the answer is) : when Tua came forward.

Byrd was giving up over 15 lbs, what did you expect him to do, trade with a guy who has one punch ko power? Byrd basically stood in front of Tua and used his ability to slip, block and roll with punches to defend himself. At times he was against the ropes and then he would get of them and go back into the centre of the ring, where he would use his pawing jab as a range finder for his straight lefts

[frankenfrank]

No you didn't. Try again.

I did

Once again I state: provide evidence that my avatar has to do with my posts on this thread.

I will not bother to browse through your nearly 3k posts.
But even if I wanted to do it , there is another problem : the platform allows me to browse only your last 500 posts.
And in your case 500 posts is 4 days , so maybe you try to flush that evidence to the past ?

[Frighteous]

"If you could survive one or two rounds with me, which would be alotta pain and heartbreak in your life cause, not only would I just hurt you for those few rounds, I'd do damage do your body, your brain.

-George Foreman,1991 during his comeback

The old version of Foreman would've defeated any version of Tyson, and any version of Holmes.

[Vadrigar.]

I did

I will not bother to browse through your nearly 3k posts.
But even if I wanted to do it , there is another problem : the platform allows me to browse only your last 500 posts.
And in your case 500 posts is 4 days , so maybe you try to flush that evidence to the past ?

"I did" - No you have not.

"I will not bother to browse through your nearly 3k posts.
But even if I wanted to do it , there is another problem : the platform allows me to browse only your last 500 posts.
And in your case 500 posts is 4 days , so maybe you try to flush that evidence to the past ?" No evidence shown here.

[Frighteous]

Wow, you're about an annoying islamic mother****er. I guarantee you don't act like that in real life unless you like getting stole on...