Tommy Hearns VS Roy Jones JR.

[BigStereotype]

SRL was better than RJJ.....I agree both were fast,but SRL had alot more power.You said so yourself saying RJJ was probably a little less powerful.In his fight with SRL,if it wasn't for SRL's power Hearns would have chewed up and spit out SRL!!

But i still think it would have been a close fight,with Hearns hurting RJJ a couple of times,thus the difference in a very close fight.

Hearns 7-5 or 8-6-1

First, I'm not entirely convinced that Sugar Ray was better than Roy. Roy was insanely good. But stylistically, they're nothing alike. I'm not trying to bust your balls or anything, I just want to know why you picked Leonard for your comparison. I always think it's interesting when people try and compare Roy to anyone.

[sonnyboyx2]

lmao.richard steele took him to a corner to look at a cut which may have come from a head butt lol,not cause he was in danger of being k.od as your trying to imply lol.jeesus you dudes will stop at nothing.every single poster on here has,or has used boxrec,so what is your point?i use youtube,*******s,ares and the video trading block also if you want to know the rest of my boxing database

bernard hopkins,james toney come to mind lol

when i look at the posters who are green around here,such as jab,poet,and yourself,id much rather be in the red.they get mad cause i present facts and shut down ****** arguments like this 1.look around you.your the only 1 who seems to think hearns has a shot

lmao you really just solidified your ******ity,and showed your lack of boxing knowledge with that part.has anybody ever stopped del valle,or reggie johnson?only person to stop gonzalez was a much younger tavoris cloud and that was recently and questionable.castro literally ran the entire fight.did johnson,valle,cherino,castro,or gonzalez all start at welterweight???were they ever ko'd by a ww like hearns was against leonard?only good supermw hearns fought was barkley,and he got promptly put to sleep lol.i'll tell you who jones did k.o.he stopped virgil hill with 1 body shot,and we know hearns didnt like to be hit to the body.hearns was also ko'd by uriah grant.whomever the hells that is lol

give it up,or call for back up.its to easy slaughtering you

Once again you show your knowledge of boxing to be zero and another of your posts made-up after you have consulted boxrec to compile your argument without ever watching a single punch thrown..

Hearns loss to Uriah Grant was due to a damaged ankle when Hearns slipped while throwing a punch, he was also well into his 40s.

You claim Haglers cuts was caused by a headbutt?... dont make me laugh you clown, they was caused by Hearns right-hand just like Hagler claimed they were in the post fight interview.. so once again another fight which you have never taken the time to watch.

you mention Bernard Hopkins & James Toney... Toney was completely weight-drained as Roy Jones himself admitted while Hopkins avenged his points defeat to Jones when he was nearly 50yrs old.. neither Hopkins or Toney carried knock-out drops in their fists like Thomas Hearns did, nor did they possess the speed or boxing skills which Hearns has.

Hearns loss at welterweight to Leonard was one if not the greatest welterweight fight of the last half-century, if it had have been a 12rd fight like which Jones fought in against Hopkins & Toney then Hearns would have been declared a clear winner after the 12rds... Hearns was stopped after running out of gas yet showed he was the equal of Leonard in their rematch 8yrs later...

Hearns was No1 contender for Haglers title yet Hagler wanted nothing to do with a rematch with Hearns.

Virgil Hill was handed his first pro defeat when taken to school and given a boxing lesson by Thomas Hearns when Hearns was years past his best... Virgil Hill was hammered by Dariuzs Michalczewski only months before he fought Roy Jones, Hill was also well past his best and in his mid 30s as well as heavily into substance abuse when losing to Jones..

Barkley was on the verge of being stopped in his 1st fight with Hearns as his face looked like a pizza with the referee ready to stop the contest when he lashed out and caught Hearns with a peach of a left-hook (ala Tarver vs Jones)..

So unto you have watched these boxing fights i would suggest that you abstain from posting your foolish made-up comments which you call facts... because nothing you have claimed so far has any `Facts` in it, it is all your own made-up drivel which you spew out on a daily basis without ever knowing what it is that you are talking about, you need to watch the fights instead of looking at `Boxrec` then trying to assassinate the career and abilities of a living legend like Thomas`Hitman`Hearns.

[them_apples]

You mean P4P? Hearns' prime was at 154 whereas Jones' was at 168 and 175. I don't know though. Hearns would still have that ridiculous height and reach advantage. Jones wouldn't have that much of a speed advantage either as Hearns would be the fastest and most powerful puncher he had ever faced by far in a P4P sense. One right hand on the temple and Jones is down and possibly out for the count.

Difficult choice. Could Jones have outboxed Hearns? He didn't have the style of a Leonard to go in on a seek and destroy mission to pull it out if he was losing so it comes down to whether Jones could outbox him, even though Jones would be at the same huge height and reach disadvantage and whether he could take one of Hearns' right hands on the temple.....?

Jones would still be a lot quicker, If Hearns shows up though, he's the one guy that could put a prime Roy away.

[sonnyboyx2]

lmao.richard steele took him to a corner to look at a cut which may have come from a head butt lol,not cause he was in danger of being k.od as your trying to imply lol.jeesus you dudes will stop at nothing.every single poster on here has,or has used boxrec,so what is your point?i use youtube,*******s,ares and the video trading block also if you want to know the rest of my boxing database

bernard hopkins,james toney come to mind lol

when i look at the posters who are green around here,such as jab,poet,and yourself,id much rather be in the red.they get mad cause i present facts and shut down ****** arguments like this 1.look around you.your the only 1 who seems to think hearns has a shot

lmao you really just solidified your ******ity,and showed your lack of boxing knowledge with that part.has anybody ever stopped del valle,or reggie johnson?only person to stop gonzalez was a much younger tavoris cloud and that was recently and questionable.castro literally ran the entire fight.did johnson,valle,cherino,castro,or gonzalez all start at welterweight???were they ever ko'd by a ww like hearns was against leonard?only good supermw hearns fought was barkley,and he got promptly put to sleep lol.i'll tell you who jones did k.o.he stopped virgil hill with 1 body shot,and we know hearns didnt like to be hit to the body.hearns was also ko'd by uriah grant.whomever the hells that is lol

give it up,or call for back up.its to easy slaughtering you

you claim Jab, Poet & Myself get mad at you and that you present facts to close shut down arguments ?

you are deluding yourself my friend... you have never ever came up with any facts, you also dont make anyone mad because you dont have the knowledge of this great sport to be able to make anyone mad, in fact i think you are funny and i laugh at your comments and the lack of knowledge which you show in almost every single post you have ever made.. you are a `Laughing-Stock` of this forum but i need you to keep posting so as to entertain me and keep me laughing at your ******ity.. i will also just like Jab & Poet correct and educate you on this sport because just like those two i feel for you because of your lack of knowledge and understanding...so you hang on in there buddy because your so called "FACTS" are as funny as The Harry Hill Show.

[sonnyboyx2]

Jones would still be a lot quicker, If Hearns shows up though, he's the one guy that could put a prime Roy away.

i agree with you... its a 50/50 fight and if Hearns turns up "ready to go" then Roy maybe going to sleep early... Ray Leonard said in an interview many years ago that he always knew that Roy Jones had a very weak chin and could not take a punch, Leonard said he knew from as far back as Jones amateur days about Roy`s chin, yet Roy used his great athletic ability (Legs) to keep out of the way and never get hit on the chin, the first time in Roy Jones career that he got hit on the chin was against Lou Del Valle and he hit the canvas, the second time was when Tarver put him away... a prime Roy Jones would certainly be hit on the chin by a prime Thomas Hearns.

[r.burgundy]

Once again you show your knowledge of boxing to be zero and another of your posts made-up after you have consulted boxrec to compile your argument without ever watching a single punch thrown..

Hearns loss to Uriah Grant was due to a damaged ankle when Hearns slipped while throwing a punch, he was also well into his 40s.

You claim Haglers cuts was caused by a headbutt?... dont make me laugh you clown, they was caused by Hearns right-hand just like Hagler claimed they were in the post fight interview.. so once again another fight which you have never taken the time to watch.

you mention Bernard Hopkins & James Toney... Toney was completely weight-drained as Roy Jones himself admitted while Hopkins avenged his points defeat to Jones when he was nearly 50yrs old.. neither Hopkins or Toney carried knock-out drops in their fists like Thomas Hearns did, nor did they possess the speed or boxing skills which Hearns has.

Hearns loss at welterweight to Leonard was one if not the greatest welterweight fight of the last half-century, if it had have been a 12rd fight like which Jones fought in against Hopkins & Toney then Hearns would have been declared a clear winner after the 12rds... Hearns was stopped after running out of gas yet showed he was the equal of Leonard in their rematch 8yrs later...

Hearns was No1 contender for Haglers title yet Hagler wanted nothing to do with a rematch with Hearns.

Virgil Hill was handed his first pro defeat when taken to school and given a boxing lesson by Thomas Hearns when Hearns was years past his best... Virgil Hill was hammered by Dariuzs Michalczewski only months before he fought Roy Jones, Hill was also well past his best and in his mid 30s as well as heavily into substance abuse when losing to Jones..

Barkley was on the verge of being stopped in his 1st fight with Hearns as his face looked like a pizza with the referee ready to stop the contest when he lashed out and caught Hearns with a peach of a left-hook (ala Tarver vs Jones)..

So unto you have watched these boxing fights i would suggest that you abstain from posting your foolish made-up comments which you call facts... because nothing you have claimed so far has any `Facts` in it, it is all your own made-up drivel which you spew out on a daily basis without ever knowing what it is that you are talking about, you need to watch the fights instead of looking at `Boxrec` then trying to assassinate the career and abilities of a living legend like Thomas`Hitman`Hearns.

41 is well into your 40's now lol.give up

key word in my my post was "might" sherlock.i didnt claim lol,but the fight is on youtube.please show me the punch that did it lol.ive seen that fight countless times.if the punch that did it was so clean,why didnt the ref call it?

good god.your either senile,or just ******.you dont even remember whats going on lol.were not comparing hearns to hopkins and toney,were comparing hagler you idiot.you said who has roy ever faced on a level of hagler lmao

virgil hill also went on to win the cruiser title after he got beat by jones and gave mormeck a tough fight being well past it

it doesnt matter what irans face looked like.he put tommy hearns on ****** st,or frazier blvd as my father liked to say.and i dont know if you know this,but jones is better than barkley

at 160,jones was untouchable,at 160 for hearns,he had been brutally kod by a ww,and a mw.thats a fact buddy

[r.burgundy]

you claim Jab, Poet & Myself get mad at you and that you present facts to close shut down arguments ?

you are deluding yourself my friend... you have never ever came up with any facts, you also dont make anyone mad because you dont have the knowledge of this great sport to be able to make anyone mad, in fact i think you are funny and i laugh at your comments and the lack of knowledge which you show in almost every single post you have ever made.. you are a `Laughing-Stock` of this forum but i need you to keep posting so as to entertain me and keep me laughing at your ******ity.. i will also just like Jab & Poet correct and educate you on this sport because just like those two i feel for you because of your lack of knowledge and understanding...so you hang on in there buddy because your so called "FACTS" are as funny as The Harry Hill Show.

so its not a fact that del valle,johnson,and gonzalez were only stopped 1 time between the 3 of them lol.and that was recently with the much younger cloud stopping gonzales.i made that up lol

its not a fact that castro literally ran from jones the whole fight?i can upload it for you if you want to see it lol

its not a fact hearns got kod by a welter,a middle,and a supermiddle?lol.i guess i made that up also

its not a fact hearns was knocked comatose 2 times in his prime while jones was never stopped

you compare srl to roy jones stylistically and im the 1 who doesnt know boxing lol.so if the rest of your peanut gallery agrees with you

[sonnyboyx2]

so its not a fact that del valle,johnson,and gonzalez were only stopped 1 time between the 3 of them lol.and that was recently with the much younger cloud stopping gonzales.i made that up lol

its not a fact that castro literally ran from jones the whole fight?i can upload it for you if you want to see it lol

its not a fact hearns got kod by a welter,a middle,and a supermiddle?lol.i guess i made that up also

its not a fact hearns was knocked comatose 2 times in his prime while jones was never stopped

you compare srl to roy jones stylistically and im the 1 who doesnt know boxing lol.so if the rest of your peanut gallery agrees with you

lmao... your going to have to show me this fact of yours where Hearns got "KNOCKED COMATOSE" 2 times?... i would call those losses TKO stoppages by the referee, whereas the KO losses which Jones suffered i would call those "COMATOSE"..

41+ is well into his 40s in terms of boxing yes... but that is all you have came up with from my reply to your fabricated idiotic drivel, it was also a damaged ankle TKO.. yet when Roy Jones was fighting bums at age 35 he was put to sleep for several minutes by them.

Show you the punch which did what?.. cut Hagler?

What Virgil Hill went on to achieve is immaterial, it just goes to show how great Hearns must have been to burst Hills bubble at age 33yrs when Virgil Hill was at the "Top of his Game" and was defending his World Title for the 12th time... i like how you completely ignored Hills beating by Michelczewski in his fight before losing to Jones.

you say Jones is better than Barkley.. but Hearns is better than Glen Johnson, Danny Green & Antonio Tarver in fact Hearns has just recently offered to fight Tarver in a winner take all fight and Hearns is in his 50s

you repeatedly claim Hearns was "Brutally KOd by a WW" i look forward to you showing me this "Brutal KO"... because like i said in my last post, you aint ever seen none of Hearns fights otherwise you would not be describing them in the foolish and incorrect way that you do...

Castro vs Jones... i have the fight here on dvd and i dont see Castro doing any running like you claim in fact Castro held the centre of the ring with Jones doing all the running.. once again another one of your made-up lies or as you call them "Facts" has been exposed as fraudulent.

Are you claiming that if Iran Barkley hit Roy Jones with the left hook he put Hearns down with in their 1st fight that it would not put Jones too sleep? or as you call it frazier blvd?

yes i would compaire Roy Jones to Ray Leonard in terms of speed & skill

keep posting i am having fun with you.

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I don't see much of a reason for debate here.

Hearns has very little in terms of significant wins above 160. Jones is the best ever at 168 and a top 10/5 at 175.

No one with Hearns' chin is beating Jones. Ever.

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You mean P4P? Hearns' prime was at 154 whereas Jones' was at 168 and 175. I don't know though. Hearns would still have that ridiculous height and reach advantage. Jones wouldn't have that much of a speed advantage either as Hearns would be the fastest and most powerful puncher he had ever faced by far in a P4P sense. One right hand on the temple and Jones is down and possibly out for the count.

Difficult choice. Could Jones have outboxed Hearns? He didn't have the style of a Leonard to go in on a seek and destroy mission to pull it out if he was losing so it comes down to whether Jones could outbox him, even though Jones would be at the same huge height and reach disadvantage and whether he could take one of Hearns' right hands on the temple.....?

BennyST don't you think that if Jones lands a good one on Hearns it's just as over, and it's a much more likely thing to happen than Hearns landing a big one on Jones?