ATG Fighters Who ''Clearly'' Ducked A Certain Fighter?

[Toney616]

Bernard Hopkins has been ducking Chad Dawson for the past year
Mayweather turned down a fight with Margarito to fight Baldomir
Pacquaio basically ignored/ducked Zahir Raheem

[Toney616]

Did Jones duck Benn? Someone who knows that era better than I can answer that one.

Jones said he couldn't fight Benn due to the fact that King wanted him to give King options on his next copule of fights. Benn was tied to Showtime and Jones was tied to HBO, so there was a problem with which network would show the fight. The only chance the fight had was if Benn beat Malinga in 96, but he lost it.

[Real King Kong]

This is the part that all fights that could have happened and didn't becomes "this guy ducked that guy". I see it frequently here. I also think the promoters and managers that chose opponents often are more to blame than the fighter who fights who he's told to fight.

i agree...but for the sake of the thread...hopkins toney...paquiao mosley/mayweather(or if u look at it the other way mayweather paquiao) mayweather margarito...morales/barrera/hamed marquez...not that hamed is atg but nobody wanted to *** with marquez at 126.

[gibo]

You may have a case for Wright and Forrest, but Oscar was long past his best for Margs or Cotto and fighting at 154. Williams, Dawson and Pavlik? Come on man, tell me you're kidding.

Long past his best for Cotto or Margs??? So why did he say, all puffed up, that he would fight the winner? He fought hobkins and Strum at 160 or more. But would not face Williams, Taylor, etc. But it was OK for him to challenge smaller Steve Forbes, and make a challenge that "only he could make" against Manny Pacquiao, who had never fought above 135 lbs? So YES!! I make my case!! hoja is the ATG in ducking fighters!!!!!

[gibo]

The man was already way past his prime and was only fighting to collect a paycheck.

Doesn't matter! He ducked alot of fighters!!!! Now you want to talk about collecting?? He's the Greatest of all time at that!!!!!

[gibo]

Wright turned his offer down. He did duck Margarito. Cotto? Williams? Dawson? Pavlik? what are you talking about?

hoja offered Wright peanuts, knowing he wouldn't accept the offer, in order to save face. Williams, Dawson, Pavlik, and Taylor, All weigh within hojas weight class. So why not fight them??? He fought hobkins and Strum at that weight? So i guess you feel him fighting smaller Floyd, smaller Forbes, smaller Mosley, and 3 weights smaller Pacquiao were great challenges on his part??? P.S. and got whipped by all 3!!! ATG Fraud and Ducking Champion of all Time: delehoja

[mickey malone]

What did Collins do to deserve a shot at Jones exactly? He had a lightly regarded belt and wasn't a big name in 96-97. The talks initally broke down due to the fact that Levin and Warren couldn't come to an agreement. Which is why Levin waited until Collins broke ties with Warren until he offered him another fight. Dibella (HBO) in that article had no interest in the fight and Johnson was seen as a much better win as well. So I cant see how it can be classed as a duck. The fighter Jones did duck was Jirov back in 2002

I don't doubt this was another fight that got scuppered in the boardroom, but Pyatt, Eubank (2) and Benn (2) was a very good resume of wins and worthy of a crack at Jones..

[Toney616]

hoja offered Wright peanuts, knowing he wouldn't accept the offer, in order to save face.

6M is not peanuts, where else is wright going to make that kind of money?
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=358622

Williams, Dawson, Pavlik, and Taylor, All weigh within hojas weight class. So why not fight them???

Oscar was dreadfull at mw, he lost to Sturm but got a gift and was koed by Hopkins. He had no business fighting that high. Dawson is a lhw as well

He fought hobkins and Strum at that weight?

see my post above

So i guess you feel him fighting smaller Floyd, smaller Forbes, smaller Mosley, and 3 weights smaller Pacquiao were great challenges on his part??? P.S. and got whipped by all 3!!! ATG Fraud and Ducking Champion of all Time: delehoja

lmao
He tried to play the Hopkins game but it blew up in his face

[Toney616]

I don't doubt this was another fight that got scuppered in the boardroom, but Pyatt, Eubank (2) and Benn (2) was a very good resume of wins and worthy of a crack at Jones..

True, but I cant see how he could of won that fight.

[C.Y.]

Bernard Hopkins has been ducking Chad Dawson for the past year
Mayweather turned down a fight with Margarito to fight Baldomir
Pacquaio basically ignored/ducked Zahir Raheem

Mayweather had just gotten out of his contract with Arum and there was bad blood between them. Why fight Margarito, who is a nobody, who is under the promotional company you just left, and who hadnt beaten elite opposition himself, when you can make more money fighting the lineal welterweight champion?