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Which heavyweight champion had the best record in history and why?

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  • #21
    Muhammad Ali definately.
    His resume is incomparable.
    He beat the likes off George Foreman, Joe Frazier (twice) and Sonny Liston (twice). That's three top 10 heavyweights (in history), plus the likes of Floyd Patterson, Jerry Quarry, Ron Lyle, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, George Chuvalo, Henry Cooper, Jimmy Ellis, Archie Moore (old), Cleveland Williams, Earnie Terrell, Zora Folley, Joe Bugner...The List goes on and on and on. I'd say he beat six top 30 heavyweights in ADDITION to Liston, Frazier and Foreman.
    Plus, he avenged all of his losses except for the Holmes and Berbick which I like to exclude. His quality of opposition and willingness to fight ANYONE are second to none.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Tony Blitz
      Was just showing you Ali said it himself because he said it doesn't mean he is

      Ah thank you.

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      • #23
        But did Marciano just retire at the top of his game? Was there anyone decent available to fight that he chose not to?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by solo1bc
          But did Marciano just retire at the top of his game? Was there anyone decent available to fight that he chose not to?
          Here are The Ring's heavyweight rankings for the end of 1955 (when Rocky basically decided he was going to retire, although he didn't annouce it for a few more months), and I'm sure you can figure out the answer to your own question from there;

          Champion: Rocky Marciano

          1: Archie Moore
          2: Bob Baker
          3: Tommy Jackson
          4: Bob Satterfield
          5: Ezzard Charles
          6: John Holman
          7: Nino Valdes
          8: Earl Walls
          9: Jimmy Slade
          10: Don ****ell

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          • #25
            Before my time Yogi so you'll have to help me out... He'd already beaten Archie Moore right?

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            • #26
              Cant Look Past Lennox Lewis Beat All Eventually

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              • #27
                Originally posted by hellfire508
                Plus, he avenged all of his losses except for the Holmes and Berbick which I like to exclude. His quality of opposition and willingness to fight ANYONE are second to none.
                so did Lennox Lewis !!

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                • #28
                  Vittali Klitthscho wud have beat ali .. and lennox wud have beat um both ... but thats ****** to even compare soo i wont lol

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                  • #29
                    Is that wat they wud have dun?

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                    • #30
                      Never mention Lennox Lewis as a heavyweight greatest.

                      He dominated in an era of decline and avoided fights.

                      You ever seen his fights. Boring with many viewers turning off the tv and going to sleep. Anytime he meet good competition he hid behind his jab and after throwing a right he held on like a suction cup. He and Ruiz really making boxing unbearable to watch. THAT alone he should get two losses added to his record. Hit and hold is a disgrace to boxing and should be fixed.

                      Steward is a smart trainer and knows Lewis's limits and fights he can win. They ducked competition when it was there and fought no namers. 2nd rate fighter or over the hill ones like Mercer, Holyfield, Tyson.

                      He's only exciting fight was against Klistkho. That fight he was gaining control of but was losing in points. You know he he was supposed to fight instead of Klitskho? Jamal McCline. Not Ruiz, not Byrd.

                      Rematch? No, Lewis fights 2nd rate fighters and past their prime fighters. The only reason he fought khilstkho, Klistkho took the fight and surprised him. You think after that fight he get a rematch. but I think he and Steward are smart. Another loss he would never be mentioned as a great champ.
                      Last edited by ricecrispi; 06-12-2005, 02:14 AM.

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