How does Joe Louis do against these fighters?

[louis54]

louis kos tyson and foreman and decisions liston.

[frankenfrank]

louis kos tyson and foreman and decisions liston.

louis massacred by tyson , decapitated by tua (in this one or another of the two first rounds) , abused by vitali klitschko (and probably by his lil' sis too) , schooled by byrd , and given fits by oliver mccall. he against foreman , frazier , shavers or lyle is a tough question.
louis , a cruiserweight by modern means , with no speed and not a very good chin , could be a decent cruiserweight in our era , the better questions are : how he'd do against the likes of : adamek , haye , o'neil bell , johnny nelson , michael moorer , vassily jirov , juan carlos gomez , alfred cole , eddie chambers , ola afolabi , steve cunningham . remember : he was KO'd by schmelling , a real small cruiserweight in our era , 1:1 against him after all , and schmelling was shop-worn in thier rematch. a prime schmelling is p4p better than louis , and h2h at about the same level. louis is a cruiserweight , maintain that. so were most of his biggest opponents (Baer 203 vs. schmelling , could make even 190 had he needed) .

[StarshipTrooper]

louis massacred by tyson , decapitated by tua (in this one or another of the two first rounds) , abused by vitali klitschko (and probably by his lil' sis too) , schooled by byrd , and given fits by oliver mccall. he against foreman , frazier , shavers or lyle is a tough question.
louis , a cruiserweight by modern means , with no speed and not a very good chin , could be a decent cruiserweight in our era , the better questions are : how he'd do against the likes of : adamek , haye , o'neil bell , johnny nelson , michael moorer , vassily jirov , juan carlos gomez , alfred cole , eddie chambers , ola afolabi , steve cunningham . remember : he was KO'd by schmelling , a real small cruiserweight in our era , 1:1 against him after all , and schmelling was shop-worn in thier rematch. a prime schmelling is p4p better than louis , and h2h at about the same level. louis is a cruiserweight , maintain that. so were most of his biggest opponents (Baer 203 vs. schmelling , could make even 190 had he needed) .

Sorry Bub. You don't get to go back and redefine boxing history to suit your agenda: Namely by going back and and reclassifying all pre-1960s Heavyweights as Cruisers. BTW, you're Klitschko2009 alt aren't you?

Poet

[TheGreatA]

louis massacred by tyson , decapitated by tua (in this one or another of the two first rounds) , abused by vitali klitschko (and probably by his lil' sis too) , schooled by byrd , and given fits by oliver mccall. he against foreman , frazier , shavers or lyle is a tough question.
louis , a cruiserweight by modern means , with no speed and not a very good chin , could be a decent cruiserweight in our era , the better questions are : how he'd do against the likes of : adamek , haye , o'neil bell , johnny nelson , michael moorer , vassily jirov , juan carlos gomez , alfred cole , eddie chambers , ola afolabi , steve cunningham . remember : he was KO'd by schmelling , a real small cruiserweight in our era , 1:1 against him after all , and schmelling was shop-worn in thier rematch. a prime schmelling is p4p better than louis , and h2h at about the same level. louis is a cruiserweight , maintain that. so were most of his biggest opponents (Baer 203 vs. schmelling , could make even 190 had he needed) .

The problem is that you haven't seen boxing so how can you talk boxing?

You said Reggie Johnson is up there with the likes of Archie Moore and Harold Johnson while admitting that you've never seen either Moore or Johnson fight. How can you say that? How can you say anything about a fighter you've never even seen or attempted to study?

You say that Louis is a "cruiserweight" but name Chris Byrd who was a former light welterweight yet very competitive in this era of boxing.

As for Louis having no speed, I disagree:

[THE REED]

Good thread and good read... just finished reading everything.

Except for the flame wars and name calling... decent debate in here.

[StarshipTrooper]

Good thread and good read... just finished reading everything.

Except for the flame wars and name calling... decent debate in here.

I'm pretty sure frankenfank is another Klitschko2009 (aka Wlad Ownz) troll alt. He does this every few months.

Poet

[frankenfrank]

The problem is that you haven't seen boxing so how can you talk boxing?

You said Reggie Johnson is up there with the likes of Archie Moore and Harold Johnson while admitting that you've never seen either Moore or Johnson fight. How can you say that? How can you say anything about a fighter you've never even seen or attempted to study?

You say that Louis is a "cruiserweight" but name Chris Byrd who was a former light welterweight yet very competitive in this era of boxing.

As for Louis having no speed, I disagree:

i think you somewhat changed what i said in the past , maybe i said he was up there with harold johnson , p4p wise even better , h2h about the same , but i never considered moore and harold johnson at the same level . and how do you know i do not watch boxing ? i know a different thing. and everyone are former straweights , the question is : when was the last time one could make the straweight's limit.
charles schooled louis ? byrd could school him better.
remember that at 201+ , byrd had a very good chin and a superb defense , charles' defense at this weight was far below byrd's.
charles would not have lasted the distance with prime mccline , tua and wlad (byrd did once) .

[THE REED]

And you're what? 14 and spending all your time looking at Mike Tyson posters with your pants around your ankles? BTW, your nuthugging posts make you look as moronic as I'm sure you are in real life. 50 years from now when you retire from a rewarding career of asking "would you like fries with that?" I'm sure you'll look back on your life and wonder why daddy didn't smack some sense into you and you'll take another pull on your bottle of Colt 45 and look for a nice warm subway grate to go nappy on. Have a nice day!

Poet

I'm pretty sure frankenfank is another Klitschko2009 (aka Wlad Ownz) troll alt. He does this every few months.

Poet

klit2009 is p4p the worst poster in bscene history.

I think hes a computer programmed bot actually.

[StarshipTrooper]

klit2009 is p4p the worst poster in bscene history.

I think hes a computer programmed bot actually.

Amen to that! You may be right about him being a bot: His command of the English language is as mechanical and robotic as the Klitschkos fighting style.

Poet

[THE REED]

Vitali by BRUTAL KO over ALI in round 3