Hearns vs Hagler

[kapersky]

i think hearns would win if the fight would go to distance but the way hagler came forward was maybe to much for hearns.

[marvdave]

Contrary to some popular belief....Hearns did not come & trade with Hagler. Hagler was all over him like no one else in history. If Hearns didn't want to get eaten alive in that very first round, he had no choice but to fire back.
Everyone needs to watch it again.

Hearns could not hold off Hagler for twelve rds.. Not ever.

god bless you..I think I shed a tear on that one.


Marvin Hagler was a machine on that evening. Hearns had no chance to win. Hagler could ko him, or out box him. Bad matchup for Hearns. It was a great fight and Hearns did what he had to do...it just wasn't enough.

[Dynamite76]

I have to agree that Hagler was hard as rock and wasn't troubled by many hard punchers of the time. But by no means invincible. He had been knocked down just the year before by someone (can't remember who). Hearns right was a powerful punch. He obviously didn't nearly KO him, but I think if he had continued to 'stun' him the way he was doing, then you never know what would have happened in those early rounds.

That knockdown was highly questionable.It was more like a slip.

[cple]

If Hearns hadn't broken his hand in that fight, i don't think it would be out of the question that he could've won. Remember, Hagler had a huge cut on his face. With two viable hands, he possibly could've capitalized on that and had the fight stopped on a cut. However, the punch that cut Hagler was possibly the same punch that broke Hearns hand.

Anyways, i don't like to play what if's in fights that actually happened.

[marvdave]

If Hearns hadn't broken his hand in that fight, i don't think it would be out of the question that he could've won. Remember, Hagler had a huge cut on his face. With two viable hands, he possibly could've capitalized on that and had the fight stopped on a cut. However, the punch that cut Hagler was possibly the same punch that broke Hearns hand.

Anyways, i don't like to play what if's in fights that actually happened.

on cuts is always possible, but on that night Hearns could not win straight up in my opinion. Hagler too tough, too much stamina.

[Birddog]

Watch the fight again, Marvin worked Tommy over pretty good in round 1, I think that took the starch out of Hearns. Even if Tommy didn't break his hand, I don't think it would have mattered. marvin hurt him in round 1, and hearns with a good right would not have mattered. He was shot after round 1.

[80schamps]

What about a rematch say soon after Hagler struggled to ko Mugabi and Hearns kos Shuller,with Hearns now being a much stronger Middleweight,and it showed,heck Emanuel Steward even commented that "TOMMY PEAKED IN THAT FIGHT"...what would be the results of HAGLER HEARNS 2?

[Anghell]

If there was a rematch after the Mugabi fight I would give Hearns a chance. I don't think he would have knocked Hagler out, but he could try to outbox him. I agree that Hearns was shot after that 1 round. You guys ever watch Legendary Nights? When they were talking about the fight Stewart said that someone from Hearns entourage massaged Hearns legs, which is why legs were so rubbery after the first round. Anyone know anything about this?

[wmute]

If there was a rematch after the Mugabi fight I would give Hearns a chance. I don't think he would have knocked Hagler out, but he could try to outbox him. I agree that Hearns was shot after that 1 round. You guys ever watch Legendary Nights? When they were talking about the fight Stewart said that someone from Hearns entourage massaged Hearns legs, which is why legs were so rubbery after the first round. Anyone know anything about this?

it is not the reasons for the legs being rubbery, but it changed hearns plan:
hearns-steward initial plan was to outbox hagler, which made a lot of sense.

but weak legs don't help in boxing circles around hagler

the only way to fight the whole fight around a great pressure fighter like hagler is to have very strong legs, to stand against his pressure

like whitaker was able to do with chavez

now that said... I think if you take away the massage and the broken hand, the fight would have ended in tko, because of hagler's cut

but to be fair in our "what if" I think that if you also take away the cut, hagler would have worn out hearns and stopped him later in the fight

[80schamps]

A legendary night where boxing was king

I have been a Hearns fan since his first loss to Leonard,and though I did'nt like the result of this [vs hagler] particular fight,after 20 years that first round still gets the adrenalin going.The HBO broadcast still leaves an impact---"HEARNS WORKING THAT JAB HE HAS A VERY QUICK JAB THERE IS NO DENYING THAT,AND HE CAUGHT HAGLER WITH TWO GOOD JABS AND A RIGHT HAND THAT MIGHT HAVE HURT HAGLER,A TREMENDOUS PACE IN THE FIRST ROUND,BOTH GUYS ARE REALLY GOING AT IT!!!!RD 3 RIGHT HAND SENDS HEARNS HE DOES'NT KNOW WHERE HE IS,HAGLER MOVES IN FOR THE KILL NOW HE'S[HEARNS] GONE.AND HE GETS UP,THIS ONE IS HISTORY MARVIN HAGLER A TEMENDOUS VISTORY!!! too cool,well the fight was not the result.I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN A REMATCH 1 YEAR LATER,WHEN HEARNS WAS A MORE FILLED OUT MIDDLEWEIGHT,AND HAGLER HAD SLIPPED A TAD,but it never happened.BUT that april 15 1985 will be the night when boxing and the rocky movies became reality.TOO COOL