Name Some ATG Fighters Who Avoided Fighters?

[sonnyboyx2]

Playground antics... that is the mentality of you, how many believe you or me..... bull****. your trying to rally round a gang to back up your pathetic and false opinion that Rid**** Bowe ducked Lennox Lewis....

Rally round? i dont need to rally round because its common knowledge to the majority of people that Bowe ducked Lewis, im just not sure whether you! realize it or whether you acknowledge it or have an answer to why so many people think that way.

Your just a bitter old **** who is biased as ****. There is a way of being critical of a fighter without looking like a complete hater you know, people respect anyone's right to disagree about a fighters credentials but you just go from one extreme to another, make lies and distort/bend the truth to fit what you want to believe to prop up other fighters and **** on Lewis.

i am not bitter nor am i an old ****.. for you to claim i am old tells me that you are under the age of 25yrs which means you was around 6yrs old in 1992 and 10yrs old in 1996... so in fact who are you to try and tell anyone that Bowe ducked Lewis / Tyson ducked Lewis... you are not old enough to recall the series of events that led to Bowe throwing the WBC belt in the Garbage Bin or Lewis being paid step-a-side money... i have explained for you in my above post exactly how these events unfolded because i can clearly recall them at that time.... yet you still being so young and of `playground mentality`i can understand how the truth will hurt you in your idolization of Lennox Lewis and destroy the mythical perseption you have of him as some kind of `school-bully` who terrorizes everyone in your classroom so much so that they throw their sweets in the garbage bin and pay him their lunch money.. like Bowe & Tyson done...

[GJC]

My post was in response to the stone roses who said that GJC "didn't know **** about boxing".

Bless you for the support, I had pretty much ignored the other guy who did not even understood my post and on another post says Dempsey had no skills.
My memory of it and this is not a criticism of Ali who was as brave a fighter who has ever laced on gloves rather it shows the risk v reward boxers weigh up.
Even if Norton was not the mandatory challenger he was certainly the no.1 HW behind Ali. They had 3 fights of which many said Norton won 2 some say all 3.
The 3rd fight was very contraversial and did not clear things up, Norton had since beaten the highly regarded Bobick (not by me I add)
Norton Ali 4 was the natural fight and the one the public wanted. Remember Spinks had only had 6 or 7 fights before he won the titlte and drawn against the only "name" fighter he had fought (Le Doux) Spinks was not a credible challenger Norton was.
Ali went for an easy defense like Dunn and Coopman but Norton was the fight.

[The_Demon]

Playground antics... that is the mentality of you, how many believe you or me..... bull****. your trying to rally round a gang to back up your pathetic and false opinion that Rid**** Bowe ducked Lennox Lewis....

you are angry because i exposed it as a myth, it did not happen, the truth of the story is like Rid**** Bowe told it, Lewis never wanted to fight him...

and lets be honest hear... i dont blame Lennox Lewis for not fighting Rid**** Bowe, in fact it was a fantastic piece of manouvering from his management in avoiding Bowe, we had just witnessed weeks earlier Rid**** Bowe completely dismantle a prime Evander Holyfield in a fight that was as good as any in history... Rid**** Bowe in 93 with Eddie Futch in his corner looked "unbeatable".. He would have been far too much for Lennox Lewis and for the money on offer Lewis was getting a hiding for nothing...

The same aplied in 96 when Mike Tyson won back the WBC title from Frank Bruno... Tyson looked awesome, with his plan to unify the title next by taking the WBA title from Bruce Seldon.. Lennox Lewis found himself installed as No1 contender for Tyson`s WBC title, but Lewis was coming off a devastating 2nd round KO loss to Tyson sparring partner Oliver McCall only 12 months earlier, his 2 comback fights against mediocre opponents Lionel Butler & Justin Fortune hardly stood him in good stead to be facing "The Baddest man on the Planet"... promoter Don King was looking to make the "Fight that never was" from 1991 Tyson vs Holyfield once Tyson took care of business with Bruce Seldon.... Lennox Lewis never fancied the job against Tyson and neither did his management team fancy the job against Tyson, so they accepted an offer of step-a-side money so that Tyson vs Holyfield could be made... Lewis could quite easily have said "No Thankyou" and pressed ahead with his shot at the title against Mike Tyson which Tyson would most definately stepped up to the challenge.. Don King knew that Tyson vs Lewis in 96 was knowhere near as big as Tyson vs Holyfield.....

All these avoiding claims by Lennox Lewis nuthuggers is a disgrace to the sport of boxing and to great champions in particular like Rid**** Bowe & Mike Tyson.... if there was any avoiding it came from Lennox Lewis and his team.

no wonder you are in the red

you are a ****in idiot

[Dynamite Kid]

i am not bitter nor am i an old ****.. for you to claim i am old tells me that you are under the age of 25yrs which means you was around 6yrs old in 1992 and 10yrs old in 1996... so in fact who are you to try and tell anyone that Bowe ducked Lewis / Tyson ducked Lewis... you are not old enough to recall the series of events that led to Bowe throwing the WBC belt in the Garbage Bin or Lewis being paid step-a-side money... i have explained for you in my above post exactly how these events unfolded because i can clearly recall them at that time.... yet you still being so young and of `playground mentality`i can understand how the truth will hurt you in your idolization of Lennox Lewis and destroy the mythical perseption you have of him as some kind of `school-bully` who terrorizes everyone in your classroom so much so that they throw their sweets in the garbage bin and pay him their lunch money.. like Bowe & Tyson done...

Yeah? i was wondering what that number was under my profile, you know!! the part that says age (28)


Yeah you recalled that Bowe did not sign a deal with Time Warner Sports did'nt you ? wish id been a bit younger to be privileged to know that, oh wait Bowe did sign with Time Warner Sports lol, that is how reliable your memory of these events is at the time they happened, either that or its just you distorting the truth,lying so it suits your argument again!!, thats why i cant take anything you seriously because you have a history of lying and bending the facts, like when you said you saw Ruiz drop Lewis in sparring but had no evidence what so ever, despite the fact you said it was common knowledge. This is precisely why you are a HATER rather than a critic, you try your upmost to lie and bend the truth to discredit Lewis, that alone tells its own story.

Trying to pass your hatred of as me being a Lewis nuthugger does not work because everyone in the section has seen how irrational you are when it comes to Lewis. If you had a brain you would of been able to be a bit more reserved and made the same criticism and been considered a Lewis critic, which is fine, instead of being considered a Lewis hater, however it seems as though you dont have the brains to grasp this concept.

Your opinion regarding Lewis its just pure spiteful hatred with no fact and plenty of distortion of the truth and lies.

You STILL!! have not explained why so many people think Bowe ducked Lewis, if its so obvious that Lewis ducked Bowe then how come the overwhelmingly majority disagree with that opinion ?

[GJC]

I have read this too, but that was purely a business decision. Why fight them early on, wait until both their stars had grown and the fight would reel in much more money for everyone. Dundee always intended to fight Hearns, just later on when it would make more sense and $$ for everyone.

Not saying it wasn't, just making the point that fighters duck fights after weighing up risk v reward. Leonard doesn't want to risk fighting Hearns until the reward is great enough. SRR doesn't want to fight Burley because the gate for 2 black men fighting in that era is never going to justify the risk. etc

[sonnyboyx2]

Yeah? i was wondering what that number was under my profile, you know!! the part that says age (28)


Yeah you recalled that Bowe did not sign a deal with Time Warner Sports did'nt you ? wish id been a bit younger to be privileged to know that, oh wait Bowe did sign with Time Warner Sports lol, that is how reliable your memory of these events is at the time they happened, either that or its just you distorting the truth,lying so it suits your argument again!!, thats why i cant take anything you seriously because you have a history of lying and bending the facts, like when you said you saw Ruiz drop Lewis in sparring but had no evidence what so ever, despite the fact you said it was common knowledge. This is precisely why you are a HATER rather than a critic, you try your upmost to lie and bend the truth to discredit Lewis, that alone tells its own story.

Trying to pass your hatred of as me being a Lewis nuthugger does not work because everyone in the section has seen how irrational you are when it comes to Lewis. If you had a brain you would of been able to be a bit more reserved and made the same criticism and been considered a Lewis critic, which is fine, instead of being considered a Lewis hater, however it seems as though you dont have the brains to grasp this concept.

Your opinion regarding Lewis its just pure spiteful hatred with no fact and plenty of distortion of the truth and lies.

You STILL!! have not explained why so many people think Bowe ducked Lewis, if its so obvious that Lewis ducked Bowe then how come the overwhelmingly majority disagree with that opinion ?

So you was only 10yrs old by your own admision when Bowe dumped the WBC belt

again.. another post directed at ridiculing me personaly and not addressing the topic... so i will once again provide you with the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo

That link is for you and all these so-called overwhelming majority who you claim disagree with my opinion... i sugest you watch the link and alter for ever the belief you have that Bowe ducked Lewis... because if you dont you will lying to yourself.. so make sure you watch it and listen to it, that way you will forever know the truth.

[Dynamite Kid]

So you was only 10yrs old by your own admision when Bowe dumped the WBC belt

again.. another post directed at ridiculing me personaly and not addressing the topic... so i will once again provide you with the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo

That link is for you and all these so-called overwhelming majority who you claim disagree with my opinion... i sugest you watch the link and alter for ever the belief you have that Bowe ducked Lewis... because if you dont you will lying to yourself.. so make sure you watch it and listen to it, that way you will forever know the truth.

My age that is irrelevant. Its just aswell we have these articles available because because you seem to have a poor recollection of the events anyway. I trust articles from Sports illustrated and their Boxing correspondents more than i do some bitter old guy with an obsession with discrediting and lying about Lennox Lewis's career.


Your posting a video that i posted on here that you knew nothing about until i posted it so why are you showing it to me lol

People know Lewis was offered the fight,they also know Bowe low balled Lewis with an offer he (Bowe) knew!! would get rejected so he could duck Lewis and attempt not to lose face, guess what? it did'nt work, almost everyone!! besides a you thinks he ducked Lewis. I suggest you watch Bowe dumping the belt in the bin.

[The_Demon]

So you was only 10yrs old by your own admision when Bowe dumped the WBC belt

again.. another post directed at ridiculing me personaly and not addressing the topic... so i will once again provide you with the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo

That link is for you and all these so-called overwhelming majority who you claim disagree with my opinion... i sugest you watch the link and alter for ever the belief you have that Bowe ducked Lewis... because if you dont you will lying to yourself.. so make sure you watch it and listen to it, that way you will forever know the truth.

bowe did duck lewis,thats a fact

which makes your argument invalid

[sonnyboyx2]

My age that is irrelevant. Its just aswell we have these articles available because because you seem to have a poor recollection of the events anyway. I trust articles from Sports illustrated and their Boxing correspondents more than i do some bitter old guy with an obsession with discrediting and lying about Lennox Lewis's career.


Your posting a video that i posted on here that you knew nothing about until i posted it so why are you showing it to me lol

People know Lewis was offered the fight,they also know Bowe low balled Lewis with an offer he (Bowe) knew!! would get rejected so he could duck Lewis and attempt not to lose face, guess what? it did'nt work, almost everyone!! besides a you thinks he ducked Lewis. I suggest you watch Bowe dumping the belt in the bin.

hilarious... you wont even accept it when its their on film for you..

as for you claim about Ruiz flooring Lewis in sparring back in 94 that my friend is 100% correct.. it was reported in Boxing News the weekly fight publication... i could also tell you about the sparring session Lewis had with Lamon Brewster in 2000 or you could do yourself a favour and get a copy of the Lewis documentary shown on the BBC the night of Lewis vs Rahman (1) where Lewis hired Jeremy Williams as his chief sparring partner...

ive forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know `Nuthugger`

[Dynamite Kid]

hilarious... you wont even accept it when its their on film for you..

as for you claim about Ruiz flooring Lewis in sparring back in 94 that my friend is 100% correct.. it was reported in Boxing News the weekly fight publication... i could also tell you about the sparring session Lewis had with Lamon Brewster in 2000 or you could do yourself a favour and get a copy of the Lewis documentary shown on the BBC the night of Lewis vs Rahman (1) where Lewis hired Jeremy Williams as his chief sparring partner...

ive forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know `Nuthugger`

Accept what !!!!! LMAO

I will put in bold so you can understand No one said Bowe did not offer Lewis the fight but the reason Lewis declined was because Bowe threw him a measly offer when he was ALREADY GURANTEED to fight for the title so why take a low ball offer. Bowe then publicly threw the belt in the bin to save face but that low ball offer just confirmed what most already know, still know, that Bowe had no intention of fighting Lewis at that particular point,whether it was smart business that i can understand why he did it, it is what it is

More apparent incident without facts i see. If it did happen fair enough but where the is you proof to support it?

You will never know as much about Boxing as i know if you live another life time, put me in the same room as you and i will make you look a complete fool the stuff i can teach you about Boxing from a technical stand point.