Tyson Vs. Lewis: Is This Statement Ignorant?

[StarshipTrooper]

Tyson never had the physical (or mental) skills to deal with someone like Lewis, and had they met in Tyson's prime (which they did, in reality, though most don't feel that way), he'd have ruined Mike long before Douglas ever got hold of him.

Is this statement ignorant or a reasonable position?

Poet

[Dynamite Kid]

Is this statement ignorant or a reasonable position?

Poet

Stickman
Tyson never had the physical (or mental) skills to deal with someone like Lewis, and had they met in Tyson's prime (which they did, in reality, though most don't feel that way), he'd have ruined Mike long before Douglas ever got hold of him.


I dont think Tyson had the mentality to beat a prime great fighter if he did not get them out of there early, that said i can see prime Mike Tyson upsetting Lewis at least 2/3 times out of 10, but i do think if they fought 10 times that Lewis would win more, that says more about Lewis's questionable chin & occasional lack of focus than it does about Mike being better than him though. By the way when i say Lewis would win more out of 10 im talking about Lewis pre or post Steward, prime Tyson could upset either of those versions of Lewis but when all said and done Lewis's superior size, skill would be too much for Tyson over the coarse of 10 fights. Tyson was clearly shot when he met Lewis though, so i dont agree with that bit.

[StarshipTrooper]

Stickman
Tyson never had the physical (or mental) skills to deal with someone like Lewis, and had they met in Tyson's prime (which they did, in reality, though most don't feel that way), he'd have ruined Mike long before Douglas ever got hold of him.


I dont think Tyson had the mentality to beat a prime great fighter if he did not get them out of there early, that said i can see prime Mike Tyson upsetting Lewis at least 2/3 times out of 10, but i do think if they fought 10 times that Lewis would win more, that says more about Lewis's questionable chin & occasional lack of focus than it does about Mike being better than him though. By the way when i say Lewis would win more out of 10 im talking about Lewis pre or post Steward, prime Tyson could upset either of those versions of Lewis but when all said and done Lewis's superior size, skill would be too much for Tyson over the coarse of 10 fights.

And that's a fair enough position to take.

Tyson was clearly shot when he met Lewis though, so i dont agree with that bit.

That's the key point I was making: The claim that Lewis beat a prime Tyson.

Poet

[mickey malone]

Is this statement ignorant or a reasonable position?

Poet

I can see what he's trying to say..

It's the bit in brackets that throws the issue, but to me it suggests he thinks that age 4 age = prime 4 prime, which of course we all know isn't the right way to assess things..

I believe there was a time, when Tyson would have crushed Lewis, but I also believe there were more times when a switched on Lewis would have the technical advantages to make Mike run out of ideas, so yes, he has a point on the mental objective to..

Before I vote, is this about the prime 4 prime thing? I'd say so..

[Dynamite Kid]

And that's a fair enough position to take.




That's the key point I was making: The claim that Lewis beat a prime Tyson.

Poet

Tyson was definitely a shot fighter when he fought Lewis, no question about that imo.

[StarshipTrooper]

I can see what he's trying to say..

It's the bit in brackets that throws the issue, but to me it suggests he thinks that age 4 age = prime 4 prime, which of course we all know isn't the right way to assess things..

I believe there was a time, when Tyson would have crushed Lewis, but I also believe there were more times when a switched on Lewis would have the technical advantages to make Mike run out of ideas, so yes, he has a point on the mental objective to..

Before I vote, is this about the prime 4 prime thing? I'd say so..

Well, the point I'm questioning is the postition that the Tyson that Lewis actually fought was a prime Tyson. That was the proposition that the whole thing turned on and the statement that the ignorance vote is for.

Poet

[mickey malone]

Well, that point I'm questioning is the postition that the Tyson that Lewis actually fought was a prime Tyson. That was the proposition that the whole thing turned on and the statement that the ignorance vote is for.

Poet

Yeh, ya right, the only thing they had in common, was their age..

[sonnyboyx2]

all this crap that is constantly said every time a thread of Tyson vs Lewis comes up : "If they fought 10 times Lewis wins most times" this is utter rubbish, the people who say this say it so as to get away from the fact that Lewis turned down oppotunities to fight Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Ruiz etc etc etc etc during the 1990s because he knew he would be KOd and those people also know fine well that the Tyson who fought Lewis in 2002 was completely "SHOT" but they dont want to accept that or say that.. so they have come up with this "if they fought 10 times crap".. the truth is if they fought 10 times during the 1990s then Tyson wins all 10 fights by quick KOs.. The Tyson who Lewis beat was the same Tyson McBride & Williams beat... The Lewis who beat Tyson was nowhere near as good as the Lewis who beat Ruddock, Tucker or Bruno.. yet Tyson still takes care of that Lewis just like McCall did

[TheGreatA]

all this crap that is constantly said every time a thread of Tyson vs Lewis comes up : "If they fought 10 times Lewis wins most times" this is utter rubbish, the people who say this say it so as to get away from the fact that Lewis turned down oppotunities to fight Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Ruiz etc etc etc etc during the 1990s because he knew he would be KOd and those people also know fine well that the Tyson who fought Lewis in 2002 was completely "SHOT" but they dont want to accept that or say that.. so they have come up with this "if they fought 10 times crap".. the truth is if they fought 10 times during the 1990s then Tyson wins all 10 fights by quick KOs.. The Tyson who Lewis beat was the same Tyson McBride & Williams beat... The Lewis who beat Tyson was nowhere near as good as the Lewis who beat Ruddock, Tucker or Bruno.. yet Tyson still takes care of that Lewis just like McCall did

The facts are that Bowe and Tyson turned down fights with Lewis, not Lewis. Lewis fought Holyfield when he could while Ruiz would have been a joke of a fight. See Lewis vs Akinwande.

Tyson was shot to bits when he fought Lewis. He was still a good puncher but no more than that.

[Dynamite Kid]

The facts are that Bowe and Tyson turned down fights with Lewis, not Lewis. Lewis fought Holyfield when he could while Ruiz would have been a joke of a fight. See Lewis vs Akinwande.

Tyson was shot to bits when he fought Lewis. He was still a good puncher but no more than that.

The facts are that Bowe and Tyson turned down fights with Lewis, not Lewis. Lewis fought Holyfield when he could while Ruiz would have been a joke of a fight. See Lewis vs Akinwande.


sonnyboyx2 must be the only person in the world that interprets it the other way around.

Irony is that if Lewis did what Bowe did and low balled him, he would still of turned the tables and said Lewis was to blame, he priced himself out of the fight with Bowe etc etc, you cant win with him lol