Pick a fighter, make an argument

[mickey malone]

Carlos "Escopeta" Monzon-nuff said. A BEAST who could both punch and box you to death. And he never lost a serious fight. Beat Briscoe, Benvenuti, Napoles, Griffith, Bogs, Moyer, Bouttier, Valdez...

I'd champion Monzon as the greatest ATMW, but not P4P.. In my opinion, these have to be the guys who won 100+ fights, or were great in more than one division..

In response to sammiza 567, Roy Jones is a good argument, but there's 2 arguments against Mayweather, too soon? or too late? He's the best technical fighter I've seen to, but he just isn't active enough.. Jimmy Wilde would be a better suggestion.. He had all the Mayweather moves, but a much harder punch, and would fight every day if you let him..

[Benncollinsaad]

I'd champion Monzon as the greatest ATMW, but not P4P.. In my opinion, these have to be the guys who won 100+ fights, or were great in more than one division..

In response to sammiza 567, Roy Jones is a good argument, but there's 2 arguments against Mayweather, too soon? or too late? He's the best technical fighter I've seen to, but he just isn't active enough.. Jimmy Wilde would be a better suggestion.. He had all the Mayweather moves, but a much harder punch, and would fight every day if you let him..

Well, Monzon came close at 87 wins. Name me one other famous fighter with 87 wins and only three losses.

[GJC]

Well, Monzon came close at 87 wins. Name me one other famous fighter with 87 wins and only three losses.

Chavez, over 100 wins and a handful of losses

[Benncollinsaad]

Chavez, over 100 wins and a handful of losses

But he had SIX losses. Whatever.

[mickey malone]

Well, Monzon came close at 87 wins. Name me one other famous fighter with 87 wins and only three losses.

Duilio Loi had 115 wins and 3 defeats..

[Benncollinsaad]

Duilio Loi had 115 wins and 3 defeats..

Where is he from? I'm sure he was in the lower classes. Not many mws can do what Monzon did really. The strength level is higher there.

[Stoppage]

Where is he from? I'm sure he was in the lower classes. Not many mws can do what Monzon did really. The strength level is higher there.

He was from Italy and fought in the light welterweight division. He beat Carlos Ortiz and Eddie Perkins.

But you're right. Monzon beat a lot more great fighters than Loi.

[mickey malone]

Where is he from? I'm sure he was in the lower classes. Not many mws can do what Monzon did really. The strength level is higher there.

I wouldn't argue with that, but Loi was the answer to your question..
Monzon was truly great, but not P4P greatness, as like Loi, he was only dominant in one division.. Just my opinion..

[TheGreatA]

Jimmy Barry. 58-0, enough said.

[QueensburyRules]

Jimmy Barry. 58-0, enough said.

- -Well, Jimmy did have near a dozen draws and a few NC or NDs here and there, but Yeah, TheGreatA remembers one of the earliest Greats in boxing...