Where Does Golovkin Rank Among The All Time Middles?

[Bronson66]

Golovkin got going too late. Even in the first two Canelo fights, of which he won both in reality, he was past his best. If he got going 10 years earlier only TBE Mayweather and Charlie Zelenoff could have beaten him. Nash out - His Majesty

I think you're right rather like Lomachenko he spent too long in the amateurs.

[JAB5239]

I think you're right rather like Lomachenko he spent too long in the amateurs.

Which is to bad, because both were outstanding!

[marionstrong]

Interesting take! I agree, that Golovkin’s prime in the early 2010s often gets overshadowed by how people judge his later years.

[The Big Dunce]

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[Dr Z]

Hagler:


2 more than Golovkin ever did and both are better than anyone Golovkin ever beat or even fought. Both Hearns and Duran both won titles after fighting Hagler. Duran even won another one at 168 beating Iran Barkley who was much bigger than Hagler. Hearns went on to beat Vergil Hill( another hall of fame fighter) for a light heavyweight title. So your claim that either was too small for Hagler is bogus.

Nobody with any intelligence would claim that Hagler was bigger than Hearns who moved all the way up to Cruiserweight. He was 6-2 inches tall. And weighed in heavier than Hagler did. So your *Hearns was moving up in weight argument " is silly.

Bottle line: Hearns and Duran are infinitely better than anyone Golovkin ever beat.

Hagler was the undisputed champion for 7 years. Golovkin was never undisputed. In fact he didn't even hold belts for anywhere near that long.


Hagler was dethroned by Sugar Ray Leonard. Golovkin by Canelo. Who do you think is going to rank higher on all time rankings? Leonard or Canelo? I'll give you a hint: It's not the red head.




Monzon:

Trying to place Golovkin over Monzon in middleweight rankings just let's me know how limited your boxing knowledge is beyond boxers that you apparently idolize.

Monzon was undisputed champion for almost 7 years and beat 3 hall of fame fighters. Golovkin beat zero so that's three more than Golovkin. Nothing on Golovkin's resume matches that.. Absolutely nothing.


Monzon was an undisputed champion and held that title for almost 7 years. He retired as an undisputed champion. That by far tops anything Golovkin will ever achieve as a middleweight champion.

Hall of Fame fighters on his record

Nino Benvenuti

Emile Griffith

Jose Napolies

Can you name anyone Golovkin beat that was better than this list?


That what I got.

Can you list your top 10 middles?

While I agree the Hagler rates in the top 5, and Monzon defiantly rates in the top 10 , BUT...



Hagler quit the game at 32 and never moved up in class. His best wins a are over smaller men moving up ( Duran and Hearns )

Monzon also quit that game relatively young at 34 and most of his best wins wins are vs. smaller men & older men. And never moved up in class.

Neither man moved up beyond 160 lbs, yet you berate GGG for not doing so?

Yet GGG went on strong until he was 36+, suffering a razor thin loss to a man that was on PEDs and will make the Hall of fame.



As I pointed out GGG did not fight famous guys moving up but Hagler and Morzon did.


Examples are Maywetaher and Cotto nor did he fight older fighters. ( Martinez ) whom I feel avoided GGG )




Let's see what you have got.

[joseph5620]

Can you list your top 10 middles?

While I agree the Hagler rates in the top 5, and Monzon defiantly rates in the top 10 , BUT...



Hagler quit the game at 32 and never moved up in class. His best wins a are over smaller men moving up ( Duran and Hearns )

Monzon also quit that game relatively young at 34 and most of his best wins wins are vs. smaller men & older men. And never moved up in class.

Neither man moved up beyond 160 lbs, yet you berate GGG for not doing so?

Yet GGG went on strong until he was 36+, suffering a razor thin loss to a man that was on PEDs and will make the Hall of fame.



As I pointed out GGG did not fight famous guys moving up but Hagler and Morzon did.


Examples are Maywetaher and Cotto nor did he fight older fighters. ( Martinez ) whom I feel avoided GGG )




Let's see what you have got.

Don't expect any more responses if you can't reply like a normal person.