Welter greats Mayweather would have ducked

[travestyny]

Pacquiao was on Peds most likely - but floyd should have fought him all the same - just like everyone else. Not suddenly have an issue cause āsomeone is too goodā

That's your opinion. I don't think he was on PEDs other than perhaps toradol.

I'm certainly not going to say a professional boxer should be willing to fight another professional boxer who is on PEDs. I believe in clean sport.

[travestyny]

Apart from this fight, was there ever a 14 day cut-off OST blood testing implemented ? Before or after ? By any of the mentioned fighters ? If not, how do you know that either party would have agreed with it regardless ? Given that there already was an agreement that was violated with extra demands.

OST is not a 14 day cut-off.

Mayweather's fights thereafter were OST done by USADA with no cutoff. For example, Mosley vs. Floyd.

Fighters agree to Olympic-style testing

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/n...ory?id=5006342

[them_apples]

That's your opinion. I don't think he was on PEDs other than perhaps toradol.

I'm certainly not going to say a professional boxer should be willing to fight another professional boxer who is on PEDs. I believe in clean sport.

Leg cramps are a tell tale sign

I think to sum it up:

Floyd found a way out of a fight with a prime (cheating Pacquiao) ducked him blatantly - but fought the other roiders cause he figured he would beat them anyways. He basically says this without saying it. For his family great, for the sport - not so great

[djtmal]

Because USADA is a well known anti-doping agency and well respected. And for that reason, Pacquiao debated using them for his future fights.

You lying in 2010 they didn't know this organization from a can of paint. Didn't know this organization existed:

"They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].

Hold it was they actually trying to blood test Manny walking into the ring?

Can't tell me Floyd wasn't scared.

[travestyny]

Leg cramps are a tell tale sign

I think to sum it up:

Floyd found a way out of a fight with a prime (cheating Pacquiao) ducked him blatantly - but fought the other roiders cause he figured he would beat them anyways. He basically says this without saying it. For his family great, for the sport - not so great

So you think Pacquaio refused the 14 day cut-off because he was legitimately a drug cheat...?

[travestyny]

You lying in 2010 they didn't know this organization from a can of paint:

"They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].

Hold it was they actually trying to blood test Manny walking into the ring?

It doesn't take much research to find out they did drug testing for the OLYMPICS. Or did you think Arum and Manny agreed to use them because they were a local business?

Any proof USADA being used killed the first fight, or was it something else? I haven't seen one statement from Pac's side saying that. But if I ask you for proof, I bet you change to a different topic



No, they weren't trying to test him in the ring. We have statements from Arum and Pac admitting they ducked a 14 day cuttoff.

[them_apples]

So you think Pacquaio refused the 14 day cut-off because he was legitimately a drug cheat...?

Yes and I Think Floyd ducked him because he figured him too rough of a match

I also think he knew Canelo and the rest were geared up - but he knows boxing and could just watch Canelo and knew heā€™s beat him easy

[djtmal]

Apart from this fight, was there ever a 14 day cut-off OST blood testing implemented ? Before or after ? By any of the mentioned fighters ? If not, how do you know that either party would have agreed with it regardless ? Given that there already was an agreement that was violated with extra demands.

No it was clear that that was some brand new s**t that Floyd was trying force on Manny.

"They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum statement

The original agreement spoke nothing of osts or extra testing or nothing.

[them_apples]

No it was clear that that was some brand new s**t that Floyd was trying force on Manny.

"They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before,"

The original agreement spoke nothing of osts or extra testing or nothing.

It was a way out. Might have been the first bout with odds not in Floyds favor. You could feel it in the air. Pacman was a beast in those days

[travestyny]

Yes and I Think Floyd ducked him because he figured him too rough of a match

I also think he knew Canelo and the rest were geared up - but he knows boxing and could just watch Canelo and knew heās beat him easy

Well that's a whole other can of worms and in my opinion is even worse than what I believe.


I believe Pac would have fought if Arum told him to. Arum clearly wanted to clean up on in-house money and wasn't sure Pac could beat Mayweather so he stalled it as much as possible. Which makes sense for his business. Pacquaio was merely complicit in the scheme.