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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post



    Did he say he is unwilling to accept a 14 day cut-off in that video?


    All Manny really says in that video is he is willing to random blood test before the fight, and immediately after.

    Keep up please

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    • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

      So why would he allow a company he or his people is barely familiar with, is implemented by the opposition, to blood test him all the way up to the day of the fight, in the biggest fight of his career
      You should ask them. Not only did they agree to using USADA, but they also considered using USADA for their other fights.

      The first negotiation did not fall apart over the use of USADA. If that's your new stance, you are making that up completely.

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      • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

        This isnt the point though

        I said so earlier, even I think Pacquiao was on PEDs. But so is 90 percent of the rest. Likely even Floyd.

        the point is. The biggest fight of the Century was blindsided by FLOYD who out of knowhere suddenly had an issue with Pacquiao. He had no issues with Shane, Canelo and every other roider in boxing. They are all cheating. ONLY Pacquiao.

        he derailed the fight. Who gives a **** what happened after.

        He thought Pacquiao was cheating because he moved up in weight and kicked everyones ass. He said so himself.

        If you cant see this I dont know why we are arguing
        Looky here.

        Shane actually got popped for being a Balco Boy

        Canelo popped as well

        Floyd popped for illegal iv masking agents
        Last edited by djtmal; 07-01-2025, 12:41 PM.

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

          You should ask them.
          No I am asking you.

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          • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            All Manny really says in that video is he is willing to random blood test before the fight, and immediately after.

            Keep up please
            I'm just going to keep embarrassing you Keep up!

            1:42: Brian Kenny: Floyd Mayweather said 14 days before the fight, like you wouldn't get tested that day of the fight. But a full 2 weeks before you couldn't be tested. What about 15 days before the fight? That would still bother you?

            Pacquiao Answer: 15 days before the fight I'm in heavy training and....uh....uh......you know It's going to be affect to my heavy training. Uhhh. uhhhh. ...It's not good to have blood testing on that date...it's gonna be heavy training





            Last edited by travestyny; 07-01-2025, 12:39 PM.

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            • Originally posted by djtmal View Post

              No I am asking you.
              Ok, I'll answer because I don't duck like you.

              Because USADA is a well known anti-doping agency and well respected. And for that reason, Pacquiao debated using them for his future fights.

              Now answer my question:

              Is a 14 day cut-off unreasonable for blood testing? Or do you expect a boxer can't get back to full health within 14 days?


              Keep in mind the drug testing window nowadays

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                How did he derail the fight if both of them agreed to extra testing?

                You are claiming you have a problem with the extra testing. Pacquaio's camp itself said the extra testing was not the issue.

                Pacquiao made his own demands of Mayweather, like owing a certain amount of money if Mayweather comes in heavy. Mayweather agreed. What's the issue?
                I just can’t see it your way. It seemed to me Floyd was looking for a way out and was acting scared. And he fought scared too. It ended up being one of those fights where if you watch it closely enough Floyd didn’t actually win. I remember years back someone kept making a slow motion video of the fight exposing the commentating by counting actual connects. It kept getting taken down over and over again.

                I’m not full on Floyd hater. If he was around today he beats everyone. But that fight, Floyd wasn’t really connecting. I can’t imagine how Pacquiao felt at the end - in his mind he didn’t even get hit. It’s hard to feel like a loser if you take no damage
                Last edited by them_apples; 07-01-2025, 12:43 PM.

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                • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                  Ok, I'll answer because I don't duck like you.

                  Because USADA is a well known anti-doping agency and well respected. And for that reason, Pacquiao debated using them for his future fights.

                  Now answer my question:

                  Is a 14 day cut-off unreasonable for blood testing? Or do you expect a boxer can't get back to full health within 14 days?


                  Keep in mind the drug testing window nowadays
                  Pacquiao was on Peds most likely - but floyd should have fought him all the same - just like everyone else. Not suddenly have an issue cause “someone is too good”

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                    Ok, I'll answer because I don't duck like you.

                    Because USADA is a well known anti-doping agency and well respected. And for that reason, Pacquiao debated using them for his future fights.

                    Now answer my question:

                    Is a 14 day cut-off unreasonable for blood testing? Or do you expect a boxer can't get back to full health within 14 days?


                    Keep in mind the drug testing window nowadays
                    Apart from this fight, was there ever a 14 day cut-off OST blood testing implemented ? Before or after ? By any of the mentioned fighters ? If not, how do you know that either party would have agreed with it regardless ? Given that there already was an agreement that was violated with extra demands.

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                    • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                      I just can¢t see it your way. It seemed to me Floyd was looking for a way out and was acting scared. And he fought scared too. It ended up being one of those fights where if you watch it closely enough Floyd didn¢t actually win. I remember years back someone kept making a slow motion video of the fight exposing the commentating by counting actual connects. It kept getting taken down over and over again.

                      Iâm not full on Floyd hater. If he was around today he beats everyone. But that fight, Floyd wasnât really connecting. I canât imagine how Pacquiao felt at the end - in his mind he didnât even get hit. Its hard to feel like a loser if you take no damage
                      I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I only really asked you one simple question that you refused to answer and still refuse to answer.


                      Do you think Pacquaio really needed 3 weeks to recover from giving a teaspoon of blood, or do you think 14 days would have been sufficient.


                      But that you won't answer this question doesn't exactly hit me as you being unbaised in the situation. lol. If you had no horse in the race, giving an answer to this question wouldn't be such a big deal.

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