Bad blood

[desert12]

Some notable fighters who had intense rivalries and escape road 2 bad blood leading up to their matches:

Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier
Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder
Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Canelo Álvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin
James Toney vs. Rid**** Bowe
Bernard Hopkins vs. Oscar De La Hoya
Julio César Chávez vs. Oscar De La Hoya

[JAB5239]

Some notable fighters who had intense rivalries and escape road 2 bad blood leading up to their matches:

Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier
Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder
Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Canelo Álvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin
James Toney vs. Rid**** Bowe
Bernard Hopkins vs. Oscar De La Hoya
Julio César Chávez vs. Oscar De La Hoya

Toney and Bowe never fought.

[QueensburyRules]

The only one I will argue with you on is Dempsey-Tunney II.

Dempsey initially accepted the loss gracefully but as his retinue whispered in his ear, and his security guard never returned to camp Dempsey became su****ious about the poisoning claim.

He wrote an open letter to Tunney asking him directly if there had been foul play.

Tunney replied by open letter claiming ignorance but then went on to calling Dempsey illiterate; mocking him.

They then publicly argued about 10 or 15 rounds, and finally over Dave Barry as referee, with Tunney accusing Dempsey of bringing in the Chicago mob (Capone) to fix the fight.

By the time the Chicago fight started there was much distrust and anger both ways.

I can see Johnson not giving g a damn but I think there was a racist bone in Jeffrirs and that he didn't want the fight. But I guess that is not bad blood. Bad blood should be personal. I guess it wasn't.

- - Jeff had 17 bouts vs "Men of Color."

Don't think JJohnson agrees with you either:

James J. Jeffries, still regarded by some fight historians as the single greatest heavyweight in history, was a fearsome and intimidating fighter who established plenty of credentials for himself in just 21 professional prizefights. He was the very embodiment of the rugged, two-fisted hulk of brawn that people at the turn of the century wanted their champion to be. It is unfortunate that his loss to Jack Johnson, after a six-year layoff from boxing, remains the best known moment of his career, for Jeffries' accomplishments were many. He fought nine bouts against future hall of famers and made seven defenses of the championship. His fighting prowess was so great, in fact, that respected boxing historian Tracy Callis wrote that Jeffries' combination of assets makes him the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time. Even Jack Johnson, Jeffries' more famous conqueror, before his own death in 1946, stated that he felt Jeffries was the best of any era.

[JAB5239]

- - Jeff had 17 bouts vs "Men of Color."

Don't think JJohnson agrees with you either:

James J. Jeffries, still regarded by some fight historians as the single greatest heavyweight in history, was a fearsome and intimidating fighter who established plenty of credentials for himself in just 21 professional prizefights. He was the very embodiment of the rugged, two-fisted hulk of brawn that people at the turn of the century wanted their champion to be. It is unfortunate that his loss to Jack Johnson, after a six-year layoff from boxing, remains the best known moment of his career, for Jeffries' accomplishments were many. He fought nine bouts against future hall of famers and made seven defenses of the championship. His fighting prowess was so great, in fact, that respected boxing historian Tracy Callis wrote that Jeffries' combination of assets makes him the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time. Even Jack Johnson, Jeffries' more famous conqueror, before his own death in 1946, stated that he felt Jeffries was the best of any era.

Jeff had 19 bout with "men of color". That color would be white. He had 3 bouts against "black" men and refused to defend the title to a man of any other color than white.

Why is it when Johndon says something complimentary and it suits your agenda you run with it, but if I point out Foreman or any fighter for that matter doing the same and it doesn't suit your agenda you try to shoot it down?

[Anomalocaris]

Hagler v Hearns.

He absolutely hated Tommy.

[JAB5239]

Hagler v Hearns.

He absolutely hated Tommy.

I remember Hearns saying something like "Now they got me fighting a midget" and Hagler really took exception to it.

[Anomalocaris]

I remember Hearns saying something like "Now they got me fighting a midget" and Hagler really took exception to it.

The quote was -

Tommy - 'I didn't know I'd be fighting a midget.'

Marvin - 'Tommy I'm going to chop you down like a tree'.

[QueensburyRules]

Jeff had 19 bout with "men of color". That color would be white. He had 3 bouts against "black" men and refused to defend the title to a man of any other color than white.

Why is it when Johndon says something complimentary and it suits your agenda you run with it, but if I point out Foreman or any fighter for that matter doing the same and it doesn't suit your agenda you try to shoot it down?

- - Sam Langford drew the color line. Jeannette was a novice at best or not at all boxing then. Wills weren't boxing then, so that leaves Johnson where Jeff whooped the guys who whooped JJohnson...yeah...!!!

[JAB5239]

- - Sam Langford drew the color line. Jeannette was a novice at best or not at all boxing then. Wills weren't boxing then, so that leaves Johnson where Jeff whooped the guys who whooped JJohnson...yeah...!!!

WTF are you even talking about here? Langford never drew the color line, and Jeffries never defended the title against any man that wasn't white. These are facts, and you're obviously drunk again.

[QueensburyRules]

WTF are you even talking about here? Langford never drew the color line, and Jeffries never defended the title against any man that wasn't white. These are facts, and you're obviously drunk again.

- - Took a full page newpaper advert stating in HUGE print he would never face JJeffries title or not.