Why do the largest HWs in history lose to relatively small HWs?

[Anomalocaris]

I respect your ring experience but I simply cannot agree with you.

A prime Liston would have put Rocky into the Oort Cloud.

[shawnkemp804]

I totally agree that Fury and Usyk are massively overated. They don't beat anyone good with a pulse.

I don't know if it's all about skin though. I find myself liking many old black fighters. I think it's new fighters you don't like. Newschool fighters, black and white are pathetic. The blacks are just as goofy. this whole era is goofy as hell. There are no killers anymore.

You know Marciano is a good fighter. You posted enough already for me to know you aren't a fool. Marciano would whipe out Wladmir just like Sam Langford a smaller black fighter would cave the skull in of Usyk. the styles these guys use today would not work.

Your racial fixation is clouding your judgement though.

Wilder sucks, Joshua sucks, Daniel Dubois sucks. You don't see any black people calling these people ATG either. Lol Marciano is good fighter to goofy racist white dudes. Marciano wasn't even good in his own time. Beating old 160 pound Archie Moore, old 170 pound Ezzard Charles, old 190 pound Jersey Joe Walcott and Old 195 pound Joe Louis doesn't make you great even for 180 pound standards. Also you do realize there are weight classes in boxing right? Again you are proving my point. White dudes have no clue about boxing. Again I never seen a black guy bring up a 180 pound boxer and compare them to a legit 240 pound boxer. Also I never heard a black boxing fan bring up a boxer from 1900 and try tc compare them to modern fighters. Boxing has evolved, You can't compare that primitive boxing style from the late 1800's/ early 1900's to modern boxing. If you think boxing with your hands by your side and not throwing combination of punches work then why did these guys stop using that style by the 1930's.

But back to Rocky Marciano, This guy was so bad that he would take 10 plus rounds to knock out 160 pound guys who were knocked out in the first round by guys their own size. Rocky Marciano got beat 180 pound Roland LaStarza and got a gift win in their first fight. Marciano got beat by 170 pound Ted Lowry and almost got stopped by this guy. Lowry had to old back and carry Marciano to avoid knocking him out. The only people more brain dead that white Usyk and Tyson Fury fans are white Rocky Marciano fanboys.

[Anomalocaris]

Stop the racism blokes. I could not care if a fighter is white, black or sky-blue ****ing pink.

Judge them on fighting ability.

Oh and I hate *** and woke ****, so do not start

[Mr Mitts]

Some people try to turn this and other threads into reverse racism and bashing white boys. Such idiot churls.

Angelo Dundee, Ray Arcel, Freddie Brown, Lou Duva, Freddie Roach, Cus D'amato, Charley Goldman, Al Silvani, Bill Gore, Willie Green, Sergey Lapin, Goody Petronelli, Whitey Bimstein, Gil Clancy, Ferdie Pacheco, Ritchie Giachetti, Mike McNulty, Kevin Rooney, Lou Stillman,

were just a bunch of white boys after all, so couldn't know anything about boxing either, but say STFU anyway.

What race or tribe do you have to be to know boxing? I am wondering do whites even know boxing better than Eskimos?

[them_apples]

Wilder sucks, Joshua sucks, Daniel Dubois sucks. You don't see any black people calling these people ATG either. Lol Marciano is good fighter to goofy racist white dudes. Marciano wasn't even good in his own time. Beating old 160 pound Archie Moore, old 170 pound Ezzard Charles, old 190 pound Jersey Joe Walcott and Old 195 pound Joe Louis doesn't make you great even for 180 pound standards. Also you do realize there are weight classes in boxing right? Again you are proving my point. White dudes have no clue about boxing. Again I never seen a black guy bring up a 180 pound boxer and compare them to a legit 240 pound boxer. Also I never heard a black boxing fan bring up a boxer from 1900 and try tc compare them to modern fighters. Boxing has evolved, You can't compare that primitive boxing style from the late 1800's/ early 1900's to modern boxing. If you think boxing with your hands by your side and not throwing combination of punches work then why did these guys stop using that style by the 1930's.

But back to Rocky Marciano, This guy was so bad that he would take 10 plus rounds to knock out 160 pound guys who were knocked out in the first round by guys their own size. Rocky Marciano got beat 180 pound Roland LaStarza and got a gift win in their first fight. Marciano got beat by 170 pound Ted Lowry and almost got stopped by this guy. Lowry had to old back and carry Marciano to avoid knocking him out. The only people more brain dead that white Usyk and Tyson Fury fans are white Rocky Marciano fanboys.

who said I was white? my mother was an Aboriginal + asian that grew up on 8th mile in detroit. Thats the furthest thing from white lol.
Never mind though, you aren't very smart. My apologies lol

If Rock sucks so much how come he terminated so many blacks? they even out weighed him? those blacks must have choked that night for some odd reason. Marciano only had 9 amateur fights you know, they had boat loads of experience in comparison.

You probably saw my mediterranean skin and made an ignorant and blind assumption that I was an anglo saxon right?

There are only 3 white races in the world. Anglos, Aryans and Slavs. The whites you hate will likely be the Anglos and Aryans. although most Aryans are dead now, the last remaining bunch left to die in Stalingrad thanks to Hitler.

That leaves a very small pocket of pale skinned individuals that you funnel all your hatred towards. Slavs have absolutely nothing to do with American slavery, and were in conflict with Anglos all throughout history.

[Anomalocaris]

Really I could not give a flying **** about a boxer's colour.

I tespect anyone's opinions until they play the race card of whatever melanin.

[them_apples]

Really I could not give a flying **** about a boxer's colour.

I tespect anyone's opinions until they play the race card of whatever melanin.

I legitimately don't either. I like Dna and knowing where someones genes come from. This ignorant black and white **** is some dumbass low IQ conversing though.

[shawnkemp804]

who said I was white? my mother was an Aboriginal + asian that grew up on 8th mile in detroit. Thats the furthest thing from white lol.
Never mind though, you aren't very smart. My apologies lol

If Rock sucks so much how come he terminated so many blacks? they even out weighed him? those blacks must have choked that night for some odd reason. Marciano only had 9 amateur fights you know, they had boat loads of experience in comparison.

You probably saw my mediterranean skin and made an ignorant and blind assumption that I was an anglo saxon right?

There are only 3 white races in the world. Anglos, Aryans and Slavs. The whites you hate will likely be the Anglos and Aryans. although most Aryans are dead now, the last remaining bunch left to die in Stalingrad thanks to Hitler.

That leaves a very small pocket of pale skinned individuals that you funnel all your hatred towards. Slavs have absolutely nothing to do with American slavery, and were in conflict with Anglos all throughout history.

Lol you are white and it is okay. Lol Rocky Marciano beat some old black fighters so that means he is great? Fantastic then Deontay Wilder is great because he ahs 40 something wins and has the highest KO percentage of any heavyweight who won the title. Archie Moore was a natural 160 pound guy, So Marciano was bigger than him, Ezzard Charles was a natural 170 pound guy so Marciano was bigger than him, Lous and Walcott were slightly heavier but both were pushing 40 by the time they fought Marciano. Lol as I said the only people dumber than white Usyk and Fury fanboys are white Marciano fanboys. Do yourself a favor and don't message me again. Message me again and you get ignored

In fact I will just ignore you anyway. Bye bye kid.

[them_apples]

Lol you are white and it is okay. Lol Rocky Marciano beat some old black fighters so that means he is great? Fantastic then Deontay Wilder is great because he ahs 40 something wins and has the highest KO percentage of any heavyweight who won the title. Archie Moore was a natural 160 pound guy, So Marciano was bigger than him, Ezzard Charles was a natural 170 pound guy so Marciano was bigger than him, Lous and Walcott were slightly heavier but both were pushing 40 by the time they fought Marciano. Lol as I said the only people dumber than white Usyk and Fury fanboys are white Marciano fanboys. Do yourself a favor and don't message me again. Message me again and you get ignored

and Usyk is a natural 199, making him smaller than Joe Louis the night he fought Rock. Make up your damn mind about size then. The only number lower than these digits would be your IQ. never drink while pregnant. happens a lot in the hood though unfortunately. Take a look at Mike Tyson. clearly he's got fetal alc. super arched eyebrowns, big gap between his nose and upper lip. A speech impediment. Hopefully you don't fall into that category.

[shawnkemp804]

Really I could not give a flying **** about a boxer's colour.

I tespect anyone's opinions until they play the race card of whatever melanin.

Lol sure, If I said Deontay Wilder is a ATG you would have a problem with it. You will find every excuse to say Wilder isn't a ATG, You would say who did he fight to become a ATG. Then you will turn around and say Usyk and Fury are ATG though.