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  • #51
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
    By the modern standard of 200 lbs. Cutoff? Here's a quick list...

    1. Joe Louis
    2. Jack Dempsey
    3. Sam Langford
    4. Gene Tunney
    5. Rocky Marciano
    6. Ezzard Charles
    7. Joe Jeanette
    8. Oleksandr Usyk
    9. Peter Jackson
    10.Max Schmeling
    11.Evander Holyfield
    12.Frank Moran
    13.Michael Spinks
    14.James J. Corbett
    15.Billy Miske
    16.Sam McVey
    17.Sailor Tom Sharkey
    18.Jimmy Bivins
    19.Joe Choynski
    20.Eddie Machen
    21.Jack Dillon
    22.Peter Maher
    23.Jersey Joe Walcott
    24.Jerry Quarry
    25.Bob Pastor
    26.Floyd Patterson
    27.Bill Brennan
    28.Tommy Burns
    29.Fireman Jim Flynn
    30.Battling Levinsky
    31.Michael Moorer
    32.Marvin Hart
    33.Ingemar Johansson
    34.David Haye
    35.Nathan Mann
    35.Frank Childs
    37.Tami Mauriello
    38.Jack Bonner
    39.Jimmy Adamick
    40.Chris Byrd
    If you use modern weigh-in rules, your list doesn't stop there. With some 28+ hours to rehydrate with iv, you'd have to pick from a pool including Clay/Ali, Frazier, Liston and many many more.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      This is a Cruiserweight thread, not a Holyfield post Cruiserweight thread. And Holy still the top dog of the cruiser division in my opinion. Usyk has an argument for first, but I think Evander the more skilled of the two, in my opinion.
      Since when has skill ever been a parameter for greatness? You (and I) have always measured greatness by resume only and never include skills or fantasy fights.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

        Since when has skill ever been a parameter for greatness? You (and I) have always measured greatness by resume only and never include skills or fantasy fights.
        It's my belief they're both very close resume-wise at cruiser. I lean more towards Evanders skillset to breakthe tie, but honestly wouldn't argue to vehemently against Usyk being at the top. Both great fighters at the Cruiserweight division and heavyweight.
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        • #54
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          It's my belief they're both very close resume-wise at cruiser. I lean more towards Evanders skillset to breakthe tie, but honestly wouldn't argue to vehemently against Usyk being at the top. Both great fighters at the Cruiserweight division and heavyweight.
          Both guys are tough, can fight bigger men well, both have remarkable skill sets... but as far as intangibles go, I lean towards the bstard maker. He just fought better competition.
          Last edited by billeau2; 08-23-2024, 03:42 PM.
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          • #55
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            Both guys are tough, can fight bigger men well, both have remarkable skill sets... but as far as intangibles go, I lean towards the bstard maker. He just fought better competition.
            At heavyweight I agree 100%. At Cruiserweight it's pretty close.
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            • #56
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              At heavyweight I agree 100%. At Cruiserweight it's pretty close.
              How about cruising weight? As in best at cruising? I'll go with Oscar wearing those fishnets Oh and dancing in that thong with his girlfriend.
              Last edited by Anthony342; 08-27-2024, 10:44 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                It's my belief they're both very close resume-wise at cruiser. I lean more towards Evanders skillset to breakthe tie, but honestly wouldn't argue to vehemently against Usyk being at the top. Both great fighters at the Cruiserweight division and heavyweight.
                J

                - - Usyk never fought in the junior 190 lb baby diapered created cruiser division.

                U lean more towards anthropoid...

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                  J

                  - - Usyk never fought in the junior 190 lb baby diapered created cruiser division.

                  U lean more towards anthropoid...
                  Funny, because if I'm not mistaken the 190lb division was around longer than today's 200lb division. So again, your point Is pointless. That's like saying Dempsey, Marciano and others weren't heavyweights because the limits changed after then.

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                  • #59
                    Laughably bad list.
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