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  • #11
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    What is the most impressive feat on this list?

    Manny Pacquiao winning titles in 8weigh classes?

    Henry Armstrong holing the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight championships simultaneously?

    Willie Pep going 134-1-1 before losing to Saddler?

    George Foreman regaining the heavyweight title at 45?

    Harry Greb going 45-0 in 1919 with wins over 12 hall of fame fighters from middleweight to heavyweight?
    - - Manny easy. Holds every Ring P4P record that counts for anything in spite of Ring being run by Oscar who hated Arum.

    Then l'l floydy ducking Manny that caused a mental breakdown where he busts up his baby mama to serve 6 months in jail. l'l floydy was never the same, but Haymon was and kept him protected until retirement at his own venue with his own commish, drug testing, refs, and judges.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      What is the most impressive feat on this list?

      Manny Pacquiao winning titles in 8weigh classes?

      Henry Armstrong holing the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight championships simultaneously?

      Willie Pep going 134-1-1 before losing to Saddler?

      George Foreman regaining the heavyweight title at 45?

      Harry Greb going 45-0 in 1919 with wins over 12 hall of fame fighters from middleweight to heavyweight?
      Well championships are always relative to the competition. And one Armstrong was fighting there was a lot of really strong fighters. I guess I would say that was the one.

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      • #13
        Good thread, Jab!
        Impossible for me to choose; but I can offer ​this, A reason to just smile politely when somebody here shouts "Usyk the greatest of all-time!".


        Harry Greb 1919

        Jan 14 - Leo Houck Boston, Ma W 12
        Jan 20 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
        Jan 23 - Paul Samson-Koerner Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Jan 27 - Jacob "Soldier" Bartfield Columbus, Oh ND 12
        Jan 31 - Tommy Robson Cleveland, Oh ND 10
        Feb 3 - Len Rowlands Pittsburgh, Pa KO 3

        Feb 10 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Syracuse, NY ND 10
        Feb 17 -
        Battling Levinsky Buffalo, NY ND 10
        Feb 28 - Chuck Wiggins Toledo, Oh ND 10

        Mar 3 - Chuck Wiggins Detroit, Mi ND 8
        Mar 6 - Leo Houck Lancaster, Pa ND 6
        Mar 17 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Mar 25 - Harold "Happy" Howard Johnstown, Pa ND 10
        Mar 31 - Billy Miske Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Apr 2 - Tommy Madden Butler, Pa KO 2
        Apr 7 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
        Apr 8 - George "One-Round" Davis Buffalo, NY ND 10
        Apr 25 - Leo Houck Erie, Pa ND 10
        Apr 28 - Battling Levinsky Canton, Oh ND 12
        May 6 - Clay Turner Boston, Ma W 12

        May 8 - Willie Meehan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        May 13 - Bartley Madden Buffalo, NY ND 10
        May 26 - Tommy Robson Syracuse, NY ND 10
        Jun 16 - Joe Borrell Philadelphia, Pa KO 5

        Jun 20 - Yankee Gilbert Wheeling, WV TK 4
        Jun 23 - Mike Gibbons Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Jul 4 -
        "K.O." Bill Brennan Tulsa, Ok W 15
        Jul 14 - Battling Levinsky Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
        Jul 16 - George "K.O." Brown Wheeling, WV W 10

        Jul 24 - Joe Chip Youngstown, Oh ND 12
        Aug 11 - Terry Kellar Dayton, Oh W 15
        Aug 23 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Sep 1 - Jeff Smith Youngstown, Oh ND 12
        Sep 3 - Battling Levinsky Wheeling, WV ND 10
        Sep 18 - Thomas "Silent" Martin St. Louis, Mo ND 8

        Oct 13 - "Sailor" Ed Petroskey Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
        Nov 17 - George "K.O." Brown Canton, Oh ND 12
        Nov 24 - Larry Williams Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Nov 27 - Zulu Kid Beaver Falls, Pa ND 10

        Nov 29 - Horace "Soldier" Jones Buffalo, NY KO 5
        Dec 10 - Clay Turner Buffalo, NY ND 10
        Dec 12 - Mike McTigue Binghamton, NY ND 10
        Dec 15 - Billy Kramer Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
        Dec 22 - Clay Turner Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
        Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 05-29-2024, 10:57 AM.

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        • #14
          ​I Don't want to turn your good thread in any direction by adding more choices; but the story of French great Eugène Criqui always inspired the crap outta me!

          https://www.firstworldwarstudies.org...-criqui​

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            What is the most impressive feat on this list?

            Manny Pacquiao winning titles in 8weigh classes?

            Henry Armstrong holing the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight championships simultaneously?

            Willie Pep going 134-1-1 before losing to Saddler?

            George Foreman regaining the heavyweight title at 45?

            Harry Greb going 45-0 in 1919 with wins over 12 hall of fame fighters from middleweight to heavyweight?
            Agreed on Ivich. And your most impressive line reminds me of the Empire Strikes Back line by Darth Vader "Impresiiiiive, but you are not a Jedi yet" lol.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
              Good thread, Jab!
              Impossible for me to choose; but I can offer ​this, A reason to just smile politely when somebody here shouts "Usyk the greatest of all-time!".


              Harry Greb 1919

              Jan 14 - Leo Houck Boston, Ma W 12
              Jan 20 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
              Jan 23 - Paul Samson-Koerner Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Jan 27 - Jacob "Soldier" Bartfield Columbus, Oh ND 12
              Jan 31 - Tommy Robson Cleveland, Oh ND 10
              Feb 3 - Len Rowlands Pittsburgh, Pa KO 3

              Feb 10 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Syracuse, NY ND 10
              Feb 17 -
              Battling Levinsky Buffalo, NY ND 10
              Feb 28 - Chuck Wiggins Toledo, Oh ND 10

              Mar 3 - Chuck Wiggins Detroit, Mi ND 8
              Mar 6 - Leo Houck Lancaster, Pa ND 6
              Mar 17 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Mar 25 - Harold "Happy" Howard Johnstown, Pa ND 10
              Mar 31 - Billy Miske Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Apr 2 - Tommy Madden Butler, Pa KO 2
              Apr 7 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
              Apr 8 - George "One-Round" Davis Buffalo, NY ND 10
              Apr 25 - Leo Houck Erie, Pa ND 10
              Apr 28 - Battling Levinsky Canton, Oh ND 12
              May 6 - Clay Turner Boston, Ma W 12

              May 8 - Willie Meehan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              May 13 - Bartley Madden Buffalo, NY ND 10
              May 26 - Tommy Robson Syracuse, NY ND 10
              Jun 16 - Joe Borrell Philadelphia, Pa KO 5

              Jun 20 - Yankee Gilbert Wheeling, WV TK 4
              Jun 23 - Mike Gibbons Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Jul 4 -
              "K.O." Bill Brennan Tulsa, Ok W 15
              Jul 14 - Battling Levinsky Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
              Jul 16 - George "K.O." Brown Wheeling, WV W 10

              Jul 24 - Joe Chip Youngstown, Oh ND 12
              Aug 11 - Terry Kellar Dayton, Oh W 15
              Aug 23 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Sep 1 - Jeff Smith Youngstown, Oh ND 12
              Sep 3 - Battling Levinsky Wheeling, WV ND 10
              Sep 18 - Thomas "Silent" Martin St. Louis, Mo ND 8

              Oct 13 - "Sailor" Ed Petroskey Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
              Nov 17 - George "K.O." Brown Canton, Oh ND 12
              Nov 24 - Larry Williams Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Nov 27 - Zulu Kid Beaver Falls, Pa ND 10

              Nov 29 - Horace "Soldier" Jones Buffalo, NY KO 5
              Dec 10 - Clay Turner Buffalo, NY ND 10
              Dec 12 - Mike McTigue Binghamton, NY ND 10
              Dec 15 - Billy Kramer Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
              Dec 22 - Clay Turner Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
              Just an insane year!!
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              • #17
                Each one is impressive but - gun to head - I'd pick Willie Pep.

                I mean,136 fights - in what, eight years? - without losing but ONE fight. It's almost inhuman.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                  Good thread, Jab!
                  Impossible for me to choose; but I can offer ​this, A reason to just smile politely when somebody here shouts "Usyk the greatest of all-time!".


                  Harry Greb 1919

                  Jan 14 - Leo Houck Boston, Ma W 12
                  Jan 20 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
                  Jan 23 - Paul Samson-Koerner Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Jan 27 - Jacob "Soldier" Bartfield Columbus, Oh ND 12
                  Jan 31 - Tommy Robson Cleveland, Oh ND 10
                  Feb 3 - Len Rowlands Pittsburgh, Pa KO 3

                  Feb 10 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Syracuse, NY ND 10
                  Feb 17 -
                  Battling Levinsky Buffalo, NY ND 10
                  Feb 28 - Chuck Wiggins Toledo, Oh ND 10

                  Mar 3 - Chuck Wiggins Detroit, Mi ND 8
                  Mar 6 - Leo Houck Lancaster, Pa ND 6
                  Mar 17 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Mar 25 - Harold "Happy" Howard Johnstown, Pa ND 10
                  Mar 31 - Billy Miske Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Apr 2 - Tommy Madden Butler, Pa KO 2
                  Apr 7 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
                  Apr 8 - George "One-Round" Davis Buffalo, NY ND 10
                  Apr 25 - Leo Houck Erie, Pa ND 10
                  Apr 28 - Battling Levinsky Canton, Oh ND 12
                  May 6 - Clay Turner Boston, Ma W 12

                  May 8 - Willie Meehan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  May 13 - Bartley Madden Buffalo, NY ND 10
                  May 26 - Tommy Robson Syracuse, NY ND 10
                  Jun 16 - Joe Borrell Philadelphia, Pa KO 5

                  Jun 20 - Yankee Gilbert Wheeling, WV TK 4
                  Jun 23 - Mike Gibbons Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Jul 4 -
                  "K.O." Bill Brennan Tulsa, Ok W 15
                  Jul 14 - Battling Levinsky Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
                  Jul 16 - George "K.O." Brown Wheeling, WV W 10

                  Jul 24 - Joe Chip Youngstown, Oh ND 12
                  Aug 11 - Terry Kellar Dayton, Oh W 15
                  Aug 23 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Sep 1 - Jeff Smith Youngstown, Oh ND 12
                  Sep 3 - Battling Levinsky Wheeling, WV ND 10
                  Sep 18 - Thomas "Silent" Martin St. Louis, Mo ND 8

                  Oct 13 - "Sailor" Ed Petroskey Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
                  Nov 17 - George "K.O." Brown Canton, Oh ND 12
                  Nov 24 - Larry Williams Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Nov 27 - Zulu Kid Beaver Falls, Pa ND 10

                  Nov 29 - Horace "Soldier" Jones Buffalo, NY KO 5
                  Dec 10 - Clay Turner Buffalo, NY ND 10
                  Dec 12 - Mike McTigue Binghamton, NY ND 10
                  Dec 15 - Billy Kramer Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                  Dec 22 - Clay Turner Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
                  Bundana once put this into perspective by writing that this single year was better than Floyd Mayweathers entire career.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

                    Bundana once put this into perspective by writing that this single year was better than Floyd Mayweathers entire career.
                    Battling Nelson and Bundana - 2 of my favorites.

                    On that point, I'd have to say that it's Razor close!
                    Look at some of those name on there!!!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                      Good thread, Jab!
                      Impossible for me to choose; but I can offer ​this, A reason to just smile politely when somebody here shouts "Usyk the greatest of all-time!".


                      Harry Greb 1919

                      Jan 14 - Leo Houck Boston, Ma W 12
                      Jan 20 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
                      Jan 23 - Paul Samson-Koerner Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Jan 27 - Jacob "Soldier" Bartfield Columbus, Oh ND 12
                      Jan 31 - Tommy Robson Cleveland, Oh ND 10
                      Feb 3 - Len Rowlands Pittsburgh, Pa KO 3

                      Feb 10 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Syracuse, NY ND 10
                      Feb 17 -
                      Battling Levinsky Buffalo, NY ND 10
                      Feb 28 - Chuck Wiggins Toledo, Oh ND 10

                      Mar 3 - Chuck Wiggins Detroit, Mi ND 8
                      Mar 6 - Leo Houck Lancaster, Pa ND 6
                      Mar 17 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Mar 25 - Harold "Happy" Howard Johnstown, Pa ND 10
                      Mar 31 - Billy Miske Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Apr 2 - Tommy Madden Butler, Pa KO 2
                      Apr 7 - Young Fisher Syracuse, NY ND 10
                      Apr 8 - George "One-Round" Davis Buffalo, NY ND 10
                      Apr 25 - Leo Houck Erie, Pa ND 10
                      Apr 28 - Battling Levinsky Canton, Oh ND 12
                      May 6 - Clay Turner Boston, Ma W 12

                      May 8 - Willie Meehan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      May 13 - Bartley Madden Buffalo, NY ND 10
                      May 26 - Tommy Robson Syracuse, NY ND 10
                      Jun 16 - Joe Borrell Philadelphia, Pa KO 5

                      Jun 20 - Yankee Gilbert Wheeling, WV TK 4
                      Jun 23 - Mike Gibbons Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Jul 4 -
                      "K.O." Bill Brennan Tulsa, Ok W 15
                      Jul 14 - Battling Levinsky Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
                      Jul 16 - George "K.O." Brown Wheeling, WV W 10

                      Jul 24 - Joe Chip Youngstown, Oh ND 12
                      Aug 11 - Terry Kellar Dayton, Oh W 15
                      Aug 23 - "K.O." Bill Brennan Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Sep 1 - Jeff Smith Youngstown, Oh ND 12
                      Sep 3 - Battling Levinsky Wheeling, WV ND 10
                      Sep 18 - Thomas "Silent" Martin St. Louis, Mo ND 8

                      Oct 13 - "Sailor" Ed Petroskey Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
                      Nov 17 - George "K.O." Brown Canton, Oh ND 12
                      Nov 24 - Larry Williams Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Nov 27 - Zulu Kid Beaver Falls, Pa ND 10

                      Nov 29 - Horace "Soldier" Jones Buffalo, NY KO 5
                      Dec 10 - Clay Turner Buffalo, NY ND 10
                      Dec 12 - Mike McTigue Binghamton, NY ND 10
                      Dec 15 - Billy Kramer Pittsburgh, Pa ND 10
                      Dec 22 - Clay Turner Philadelphia, Pa ND 6
                      Yeah nothing can contend with this

                      second for me is armstrong doing what he did in an era of much fewer weight classes and titles.

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