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  • #31
    Sonny Liston had one of the best chin's in Heavyweight History.

    Watch his fights against hard hitting Cleveland "Big Cat" Williams,who had a murderous left hook.

    Ali didn't hit very hard,and there is NO WAY he could KO Sonny Liston,let alone with one punch.

    Liston was scared of the death threats from the ******s who said they were going to shoot him.The Mob(Who controled Liston) theatened to kill Muhammad Ali,and people were being searched for fire arms coming to the fight.Boxing writers at ring side where wearing bullet proof vests.Liston had to take a dive or he would have been shot(Or so he believed).

    Read Muhammad Ali's book(The Greatest) and listen to his version about this fight,and how he sensed someone was pointing a gun at him in the 1st round.

    Liston had a chin of granite,and NO WAY could Ali even knock him down,let alone out.

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    • #32
      Ok, people get on my back, time to put this to sleep...

      There was no fix, if there were Ali, Liston nor Walcott knew about it. The judges? We'll never know.

      Walcott simply lost control, he had no buisness in the ring that night, he was far too inexperienced to officiate this high profile match up.

      As for the fight, Ali hit Liston with a good shot, it was a flash knockdown, nothing more, but Sonny Liston realized this was the begining of the end, factor in the political issues surrounding this fight, and he wanted no part of it. He quit on his stool in the 1st fight, there's no reason to believe he wouldn't quit again.

      Given he did get up to fight again, but only because he felt like a fool rolling around on the floor without being given a proper 10 count by the referee. Good Night, Sleep Tight.
      Last edited by game20ver; 10-14-2009, 08:18 AM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by boxingbuff View Post
        Liston had a chin of granite,and NO WAY could Ali even knock him down,let alone out.


        youtube.com/watch?v=LNdmySLkqyI[/url]


        u can hear the punch landing.
        the KD wasnt fake, 100%.

        i think liston waited for the count and thats why he lost the fight in the first round.
        and if u watch the first fight, liston was nearly going down again in round 5 or 6.
        ali was all over liston.
        liston cheated with some chemical on his gloves to make ali blind, and still couldnt beat him.
        i like liston and believe he could beat any heavyweight today with his long arms, but a prime ali ? - no way

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        • #34
          fandome.com/video/85762/Muhammad-Ali-vs-Sonny-Liston-I-Part-33


          joe louis says that something is wrong with alis eyes.

          liston lands so many left hooks and cant even move ali..
          Last edited by Schmerzen; 10-14-2009, 08:37 AM.

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          • #35
            Ali said Liston helped by running into the punch.

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            • #36
              Everybody knows he took a dive. Why else would Ali shout at him to get up??! Its ludicrous to even ask this question. He was on the mob payroll and had to take a dive.

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