Rare films, right here.

[Dr. Z]

Spinks at 6ft 2.5in had the height to add the extra poundage to he was just under 208lbs for Cooney,,so hardly a Lhvy.
Braddock was 170lbs to Loughran's 174lbs,but when he fought Baer he had added 24lbs to his frame.
If size did not matter neither of them would have thought it necessary to do so.

Boxing with Wilson Pitts - Charley Burley film study - YouTube

Yes, and IMO Baer tanked the match. Good points tough I must say.

Braddock lost cleanly to Loughran. Braddock lost 24 times and drew 4 times for those keeping score and comparing him to Spinks.

[Ivich]

Yes, and IMO Baer tanked the match. Good points tough I must say.

Braddock lost cleanly to Loughran. Braddock lost 24 times and drew 4 times for those keeping score and comparing him to Spinks.

Apart from being of a similar height ,nobody is comparing him to Spinks.

What does my message on Trump have to do with the middle east problem?
I am not anti USA,I think it's a great country but, like every country it has its quota of arse holes, like Trump and yourself.Not anti American but definitely anti arseholes!

You and Trump have one thing in common,you are both serial liars.

[Dr. Z]

Apart from being of a similar height ,nobody is comparing him to Spinks.

What does my message on Trump have to do with the middle east problem?
I am not anti USA,I think it's a great country but, like every country it has its quota of arse holes, like Trump and yourself.Not anti American but definitely anti arseholes!

You and Trump have one thing in common,you are both serial liars.

You lie like the rug.

1 ) I don't support Trump. 2 ) What have your proven I lied about? That would be nothing. 3 ) You are a liar, a free mason freak, and person who has admitted giving money to a *********ic organization . All true things. You also claim a 137 IQ Yeah --- that too.

Now what does this have to do with this thread? Nothing. You brought it up in a thread about the middle east. Yes, you did say country that voted for Trump gets what they deserve, whatever is supposed to mean. All 340+ million of us.

Now be gone! And avoid posting in my threads. This is a rare films thread.

[Ivich]

You lie like the rug.

1 ) I don't support Trump. 2 ) What have your proven I lied about? That would be nothing. 3 ) You are a liar, a free mason freak, and person who has admitted giving money to a *********ic organization . All true things. You also claim a 137 IQ Yeah --- that too.

Now what does this have to do with this thread? Nothing. You brought it up in a thread about the middle east. Yes, you did say country that voted for Trump gets what they deserve, whatever is supposed to mean. All 340+ million of us.

Now be gone! And avoid posting in my threads. This is a rare films thread.

I never said you supported Trump I said you have something in common ,you are both serial liars.


You want some examples of your lies? I must state I am going to the pub at lunchtime to listen to music so I can't give as many I would like.

Some examples.
Monzon was floored by Fernandez.You said you read it in an Argentine news paper so according to you,you read Spanish, I highly doubt you do as you cant even read English!

I went to the trouble of getting a Google translation of the fight from an Argentine paper and in fact it was Monzon who floored Fernandez not the other way around .

The Johnson v Jeffries fight was level after 10rds.Totally false.

The Johnson v Moran fight was close, Also false.

After fighting Ossie Ocasio, Lennox Lewis stated he would fight no more southpaws.
Ocasio was not a southpaw,you invented that quote.

The Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed,we had a bet on this, I said it wasn't and was proved right by Gilbert Odd,Adam Pollack.Steve Compton,and Ted Spoon.
Your excuse for welching on our bet was a re-enactment was made later and so that counted as the fight being filmed,You said Ted Spoon had told you it was filmed,I contacted Ted and he stated he had never spoken to you.

You have said many times GunBoat Smith tko'd Jack Johnson in an exhibition .False, proven so by Smith himself in a taped interview.
You said Tommy Burns had jaundice when he fought Johnson and that Kevin Smith confirmed this.False and Kevin took the trouble to come on to Classic and tell you to stop attributing quotes to him that he had never made.
You said Johnson went to the hospital after the Burns fight because his ribs were damaged.False,he went for a swim.

You still insist you are not permanently banned from Classic ESB.You are.

You said.Freemasons worship the devil, False

Freemasons practice *****philia.Totally false.

You said I claimed an IQ of 137 .False.I took an IQ test over 50 years ago the result was135.
I'm a couple of weeks off of 75 and have no idea what my reading would be now,but I'd be willing to bet it is still considerably higher than yours!

That's TWELVE examples to be going on with.


What has Trump to do with this thread?

You saw fit to add this quote of mine below to your signature, and I responded and corrected it .

" I'm not interested in US politics, any country that voted for Trump deserves all it gets. " - Ivich's anti USA message on the middle east problem. 11-1-2023

I'm not in any way anti US only anti Trump and my quote has nothing to do with the middle east situation.
You brought politics into this thread ,and every other thread you post on, by including my quote as a
postscript in a pathetic attempt to traduce my name.[Look up traduce]
Now I'll post on any thread I want. and I've posted some links to footage that has been appreciated by posters on this thread.

Please feel free to post any "lies", you say I have said, I would really like to have the opportunity to address them!

Time to shower and change , so long Muppet!

[Ivich]

I never said you supported Trump I said you have something in common ,you are both serial liars.


You want some examples of your lies? I must state I am going to the pub at lunchtime to listen to music so I can't give as many I would like.

Some examples.
Monzon was floored by Fernandez.You said you read it in an Argentine news paper so according to you,you read Spanish, I highly doubt you do as you cant even read English!

I went to the trouble of getting a Google translation of the fight from an Argentine paper and in fact it was Monzon who floored Fernandez not the other way around .

The Johnson v Jeffries fight was level after 10rds.Totally false.

The Johnson v Moran fight was close, Also false.

After fighting Ossie Ocasio, Lennox Lewis stated he would fight no more southpaws.
Ocasio was not a southpaw,you invented that quote.

The Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed,we had a bet on this, I said it wasn't and was proved right by Gilbert Odd,Adam Pollack.Steve Compton,and Ted Spoon.
Your excuse for welching on our bet was a re-enactment was made later and so that counted as the fight being filmed,You said Ted Spoon had told you it was filmed,I contacted Ted and he stated he had never spoken to you.

You have said many times GunBoat Smith tko'd Jack Johnson in an exhibition .False, proven so by Smith himself in a taped interview.
You said Tommy Burns had jaundice when he fought Johnson and that Kevin Smith confirmed this.False and Kevin took the trouble to come on to Classic and tell you to stop attributing quotes to him that he had never made.
You said Johnson went to the hospital after the Burns fight because his ribs were damaged.False,he went for a swim.

You still insist you are not permanently banned from Classic ESB.You are.

You said.Freemasons worship the devil, False

Freemasons practice *****philia.Totally false.

You said I claimed an IQ of 137 .False.I took an IQ test over 50 years ago the result was135.
I'm a couple of weeks off of 75 and have no idea what my reading would be now,but I'd be willing to bet it is still considerably higher than yours!

That's TWELVE examples to be going on with.


What has Trump to do with this thread?

You saw fit to add this quote of mine below to your signature, and I responded and corrected it .

" I'm not interested in US politics, any country that voted for Trump deserves all it gets. " - Ivich's anti USA message on the middle east problem. 11-1-2023

I'm not in any way anti US only anti Trump and my quote has nothing to do with the middle east situation.
You brought politics into this thread ,and every other thread you post on, by including my quote as a
postscript in a pathetic attempt to traduce my name.[Look up traduce]
Now I'll post on any thread I want. and I've posted some links to footage that has been appreciated by posters on this thread.

Please feel free to post any "lies", you say I have said, I would really like to have the opportunity to address them!

Time to shower and change , so long Muppet!

Lloyd Marshall vs Freddie Mills HD - YouTube


BOXING: Lloyd Marshall beats Tommy Farr at Camarthen (1950) - YouTube

The Final Round of Jake LaMotta vs Laurent Dauthuille II - 13.9.1950 in COLOR - YouTube

" I was very very lucky to win that fight."Lamotta

[Ivich]

Lloyd Marshall vs Freddie Mills HD - YouTube


BOXING: Lloyd Marshall beats Tommy Farr at Camarthen (1950) - YouTube

The Final Round of Jake LaMotta vs Laurent Dauthuille II - 13.9.1950 in COLOR - YouTube

" I was very very lucky to win that fight."Lamotta

ENGLAND: SPORTS: Teddy Baldock (Boxer) at Brown Boxing (1931) - YouTube
Teddy Baldock v Panama Al Brown.

Holman Williams-Young Gene Buffalo III - YouTube

[Ivich]

ENGLAND: SPORTS: Teddy Baldock (Boxer) at Brown Boxing (1931) - YouTube
Teddy Baldock v Panama Al Brown.

Holman Williams-Young Gene Buffalo III - YouTube

Ted 'Kid' Lewis vs Boy McCormick HD - YouTube

- GIF - Imgur
Earl Walls

[Willie Pep 229]

Lloyd Marshall vs Freddie Mills HD - YouTube


BOXING: Lloyd Marshall beats Tommy Farr at Camarthen (1950) - YouTube

The Final Round of Jake LaMotta vs Laurent Dauthuille II - 13.9.1950 in COLOR - YouTube

" I was very very lucky to win that fight."Lamotta

Dauthuille got a 'quick count,' e.g. Marciano-Walcott II.

IMO Fight should should have gone on.

Thanks for posting.

[Willie Pep 229]

Lloyd Marshall vs Freddie Mills HD - YouTube


BOXING: Lloyd Marshall beats Tommy Farr at Camarthen (1950) - YouTube

The Final Round of Jake LaMotta vs Laurent Dauthuille II - 13.9.1950 in COLOR - YouTube

" I was very very lucky to win that fight."Lamotta

Mills reaction reminds me of Tommy Morrison (Mercer) sitting on his stool punching air.

Mills' reaction to the punch I have never witnessed before.

I saw, live once, a KOed fighter punching air from his back and a few other times on TV, but never anyone react like Mills did.

[Shadoww702]

Thanks Z for sharing this. Those old school videos are crazy...