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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

    Well then certainly you'll be able to show proof or where I been whooped.

    The last time you tried, you told us that Dempsey accepted a fight in 2001 with Wills. A bit late, pops
    - - I was posting extensively on this in 2001 on AOL. I'm the guy who uncovered the Fitz contract presser with Jack and Harry signing for promotional purposes.

    Jack never ducked Harry, nor do I claim Harry ducked Jack when he was offered the eliminator vs Tunney by Rickard that he turned down as already the #1 Ring Hvy that Rickard put him as.

    I understand the nuances of the time period that some unwash kid like you could never understand.

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    • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

      STOP. The fight was a sham and Johnson did not even hire a lawyer to defend this " purse " . Did you read the link? Admit it, he made nothing for the Moran. It would not matter if he signed for $40,000

      Johnson should have accepted the terms with Langford in 1913 - 1914 in France, and asked for a portion of the purse up front. Whatever the amount was / is reported to be offered, at least he would make some money! But we both know Johnson was scared of Langford.

      Use what little brain you have. The link is protected for copying. Otherwise anyone could do it. DUH.

      Listen to your own advice and buzz off already.
      Give it up. You've admit already that he was to make $30,000 and the money was taken away.

      Now you want us to believe that he wanted to lose the money? Yea, ok.

      I'm still waiting for you to take the screen cap of that offer and share it with everyone here. What are you afraid of?


      Hard to believe that he was afraid of Langford when he agreed to fight him about 4 times. All proven here. You won't even step up and share anything. Grow some balls.

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      • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - I was posting extensively on this in 2001 on AOL. I'm the guy who uncovered the Fitz contract presser with Jack and Harry signing for promotional purposes.

        Jack never ducked Harry, nor do I claim Harry ducked Jack when he was offered the eliminator vs Tunney by Rickard that he turned down as already the #1 Ring Hvy that Rickard put him as.

        I understand the nuances of the time period that some unwash kid like you could never understand.
        You are welcome to your opinion. Many others disagree with you. And there is plenty of evidence to back up the claim that Dempsey ducked Wills. Even the guy Dempsey thought was the greatest authority on boxing believed he ducked Harry. Because he did.

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

          Give it up. You've admit already that he was to make $30,000 and the money was taken away.

          Now you want us to believe that he wanted to lose the money? Yea, ok.

          I'm still waiting for you to take the screen cap of that offer and share it with everyone here. What are you afraid of?


          Hard to believe that he was afraid of Langford when he agreed to fight him about 4 times. All proven here. You won't even step up and share anything. Grow some balls.
          Moran didnt see a cent of the money either.
          This comment from Z,complete with his usual obligatory misspelling,and terrible grammar really illustrates the depths of absurdity he will stoop to.
          For a man who has Johnson living rent free in his head,he is very ignorant about the man.


          "Obvisouly Jack Johnson 's shady dealings owned some money!"​
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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

            You are welcome to your opinion. Many others disagree with you. And there is plenty of evidence to back up the claim that Dempsey ducked Wills. Even the guy Dempsey thought was the greatest authority on boxing believed he ducked Harry. Because he did.
            - - Who that be?

            Langford and Jeanette no better authorities on JJohnson that can be found, and they say JJohnson ducked them, ducking being a somewhat ethereal charge with a loose definition.

            We know today Blubber first ducked AJ to go after low hanging, spoiling fruit of Wilder, and now ducking Usyk in favor of so elderly MMA guy, now that's definitive in the hear and now and everyone knows it.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

              Give it up. You've admit already that he was to make $30,000 and the money was taken away.

              Now you want us to believe that he wanted to lose the money? Yea, ok.

              I'm still waiting for you to take the screen cap of that offer and share it with everyone here. What are you afraid of?


              Hard to believe that he was afraid of Langford when he agreed to fight him about 4 times. All proven here. You won't even step up and share anything. Grow some balls.
              STOP. I grow tried of seeing that homely, big bodied, double chined girl. I have provided multiples links. It's over. You lose.

              The fight was a sham and Johnson did not even hire a lawyer to defend this " purse " . Did you read the link? Admit it, he made nothing for the Moran. It would not matter if he signed for $40,000

              Johnson should have accepted the terms with Langford in 1913 - 1914 in France, and asked for a portion of the purse up front. Whatever the amount was / is reported to be offered, at least he would make some money! But we both know Johnson was scared of Langford.

              Use what little brain you have. The link is protected for copying. Otherwise anyone could do it. DUH.

              Listen to your own advice and buzz off already.​
              Last edited by Dr. Z; 09-19-2023, 12:04 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                STOP. I grow tried of seeing that homely, big bodied, double chined girl. I have provided multiples links. It's over. You lose.
                You've provided nothing. I've asked you time and again to post the article here but you duck. Why can't you grow a pair?


                You can take a picture of any article so that's a dumb excuse. How the hell do you think I've posted NY times articles here? Step up or crawl back under your rock.
                Last edited by travestyny; 09-20-2023, 04:10 AM.

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                • Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                  You've provided nothing. I've asked you time and again to post the article here but you duck. Why can't you grow a pair?


                  You can take a picture of any article so that's a dumb excuse. How the hell do you think I've posted NY times articles here? Step up or crawl back under your rock.
                  Shut up already. I posted proof many times on the issue. What is that angry lady going to attack someone? Are you trying to get me banned with illegal copy right issues? I'm not taking that garbage bait. Perhaps you post illegal pictures on the web, I do not.

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                  • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Who that be?

                    Langford and Jeanette no better authorities on JJohnson that can be found, and they say JJohnson ducked them, ducking being a somewhat ethereal charge with a loose definition.

                    We know today Blubber first ducked AJ to go after low hanging, spoiling fruit of Wilder, and now ducking Usyk in favor of so elderly MMA guy, now that's definitive in the hear and now and everyone knows it.
                    Langford said he gave Johnson a very tough fight and knocked him down,in their exhibition afterwards he said he knocked Johnson all round the stage.so viciously the fire buckets were knocked off the walls.He also said he only weighed 147lbs for their fight.
                    Want to know something? HE LIED!
                    Johnson had an easy time with him flooring his 3 times for long 9 counts, breaking his nose and cutting his eye.

                    In their exhibition reports say Johnson was careful not to hit Langford in his damaged eye and they boxed " some sedate rounds with no damage inflicted." ,"
                    Jeannette, prior to the abortive NY fight with Johnson."I know I have the beating of him I have already beaten him multiple times."
                    Jeannette also said he weighed."only165lbs"for their last fight.
                    HE LIED!
                    In their 5 fights Johnson floored Jeannette 6 times,and Jeannette won just 1 of them ,on a highly controversial foul in the 2nd round of a fight Johnson was winning.

                    Johnson v Jeffries
                    "Jeffries can lose half of his strength and still beat Johnson." Jeannette.
                    "Jeffries will beat Johnson, Johnson won't be able to hurt him ,he has the will and the skill " Langford .

                    No better authorities? LOL!!!!

                    Don't despair though, you are right about Fury.For you,getting one out of three is excellent! lol

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                    • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                      Shut up already. I posted proof many times on the issue. What is that angry lady going to attack someone? Are you trying to get me banned with illegal copy right issues? I'm not taking that garbage bait. Perhaps you post illegal pictures on the web, I do not.

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                      Ground Hog Day yet again!
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