If Wills Had Fought And Beaten Dempsey In1922?

[travestyny]

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Never heard of it before.

JJohnson supposedly lined up a Dempsey challenge in Mexico City rightly seen as a figment then, but they eventually fought in the dead of winter in Canada, or so it was said.

Go git’em Tiger!

So you know nothing about it. What a surprise.


Johnson never fought Dempsey. When he wanted to, Dempsey stated he would draw the color line. And the newspaper article that claimed they fought admit itself it was just a tale, if I remember correctly.

Thanks for being a waste of time as usual.

[QueensburyRules]

So you know nothing about it. What a surprise.


Johnson never fought Dempsey. When he wanted to, Dempsey stated he would draw the color line. And the newspaper article that claimed they fought admit itself it was just a tale, if I remember correctly.

Thanks for being a waste of time as usual.

- - You ducking Montreal after squawking about Saskatoon…priceless…

[travestyny]

- - You ducking Montreal after squawking about Saskatoon…priceless…

Um...I think. it's you that just ducked Montreal. Apparently you know nothing about it.

No more attention for you. Like I said. Clearly you are just lonely and want someone to talk to. Because honestly, you don't know much about anything.

[QueensburyRules]

Um...I think. it's you that just ducked Montreal. Apparently you know nothing about it.

No more attention for you. Like I said. Clearly you are just lonely and want someone to talk to. Because honestly, you don't know much about anything.

- - Don’t take much to know more than you.

Montreal!

Canadian Capital where much French is spoken with occasional great boxing matches, ie Duran/Leonard1.

[Ivich]

Um...I think. it's you that just ducked Montreal. Apparently you know nothing about it.

No more attention for you. Like I said. Clearly you are just lonely and want someone to talk to. Because honestly, you don't know much about anything.

An infantile ,attention seeking, troll.

[travestyny]

An infantile ,attention seeking, troll.

Absolutely!!!

[Marchegiano]

So you know nothing about it. What a surprise.


Johnson never fought Dempsey. When he wanted to, Dempsey stated he would draw the color line. And the newspaper article that claimed they fought admit itself it was just a tale, if I remember correctly.

Thanks for being a waste of time as usual.

Yeah man, I blew that myth apart. I found the original article, the other fantasy fights by them, the original author explaining in no uncertain terms it was the first of a fantasy series and not to be taken seriously, the magazine that reprinted the story without the fantasy caveat to create the myth in the 80s, what source they claimed, and a copy of that source that, shocker, states right at the beginning it's a fantasy fight.

There's a thread all about it. It's blown to ****, but even in that thread Queenie's talking about it happened doe ... no proof or anything. Just doing his normal nuh-huh bull. I'd love to know why he resists so much but he never shares. He just says you wrong tee-hee and ****s off.

[QueensburyRules]

Yeah man, I blew that myth apart. I found the original article, the other fantasy fights by them, the original author explaining in no uncertain terms it was the first of a fantasy series and not to be taken seriously, the magazine that reprinted the story without the fantasy caveat to create the myth in the 80s, what source they claimed, and a copy of that source that, shocker, states right at the beginning it's a fantasy fight.

There's a thread all about it. It's blown to ****, but even in that thread Queenie's talking about it happened doe ... no proof or anything. Just doing his normal nuh-huh bull. I'd love to know why he resists so much but he never shares. He just says you wrong tee-hee and ****s off.

- - Never provided more than the fight report of the original author, the fight mag Writer, and his comments by Dempsey seemingly supporting the article.

I have the article in question and have never questioned the validity yea or nay.

Modern grrly boys that predomindate forums have different agendas and that’s where we are today…

[Marchegiano]

- - Never provided more than the fight report of the original author, the fight mag Writer, and his comments by Dempsey seemingly supporting the article.

I have the article in question and have never questioned the validity yea or nay.

Modern grrly boys that predomindate forums have different agendas and that’s where we are today…

Does it? Does Dempsey's comments support the article? You sure about that?

[Willie Pep 229]

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Never heard of it before.

JJohnson supposedly lined up a Dempsey challenge in Mexico City rightly seen as a figment then, but they eventually fought in the dead of winter in Canada, or so it was said.

Go git’em Tiger!

Kearns used the purported $1,000,000 offer from Mexico City as a stall while he beat the bushes out west looking for a fight away from Rickard.

He (Kearns) claimed he was talking to Mexico but never followed it up with either action or even rhetoric. Just fluff.

Johnson had done nothing of worth between 1915-1922 so Dempsey didn't need the color line to blow off Johndon. No one wanted the fight except Johnson.

He (Johnson) had become a non-entity and no one was taking him seriously.

As I said in an earlier post Rickard showed the Johnson-Jeffries fight in 1921 in Chicago as a lead-in to the Dempsey-Carpentier film.

The audience ignored the fight and talked over it.

In keeping with the OP - one has to wonder if Wills would have taken a Johnson fight.

Personally I doubt he would bother. Jeannette in New York or Langford anywhere, woukd likely have sold better than a Wills-Johndon fight in '22 or '23.

Johnson was never actually popular until he became the Negro threat that had to be unseated from the championship.

He filled seats with fans who wanted to see him humbled. By 1922 he had been humbled and White fans had lost interest in him.

A Wills-Johnson fight, an all Negro go, wasn't going to sell because few would have cared since Johnson was no longer a threat, in the ring or out of the ring; never popular, just hated and by '22, forgotten.

Right or wrong by 1922 he (Johnson) was reduced to a convicted felon and a has-been fighter.