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Who makes it into each of your tiers for Light Heavyweight
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Harold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.
Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostHarold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.
Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.
edit: they had 5 fights, damn. Talk about educationLast edited by them_apples; 06-22-2023, 06:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Slugfester View Post
Harold was kind of a medium puncher, wasn't he? I figure Charles was a medium puncher too, so no slander.Slugfester
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostHarold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.
Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.
Johnson not an all time great, probably somewhere around IBRO 10-15 mark that is good enough for most folk.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
- - Archie had been beating Johnson like a drum several times. Ez lost a split decision in one fight as the exchamp in his latter days.
Johnson not an all time great, probably somewhere around IBRO 10-15 mark that is good enough for most folk.
He also beat Charles clearly despite the SD.
So you again showcase the fact you have no clue what you're talking about.Slugfester likes this.
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Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View PostSubjective terms - Subjective lists.
Nothin' wrong with that; I love me some lists:
All Time Greats-
Sam Langford
Gene Tunney
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Harry Greb
Bob Foster
Tommy Loughran
Michael Spinks
Bob Fitzsimmons
Jack Dillon
Charles Kid McCoy
Billy Miske
Philadelphia Jack O'Brian
Roy Jones Jr.
Billy Conn
Battling Levinski
Georges Carpentier
Tommy Gibbons
Jack Delaney
Young Stribling
John Henry Lewis
Jimmy Slattery
Jimmy Bivins
Greats-
Paul Berlenbach
Maxie Rosenbloom
Jack Root
Harold Johnson
Jeff Clarke
Kid Norfolk
Victor Galindez
Mickey Walker
Jose Torres
Mike McTigue
Lloyd Marshall
George Gardner
Near Greats-
Dariusz Michalczewski
Joey Maxim
Battling Siki
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Freddie Mills
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Virgil Hill
Michael Moorer
**** Tiger
Willie Pastrano
Gus Lesnevich
Ad Stone
Jack Bonner
Very Goods-
Too many to mention.....(semantics)..but:
Anton Christoforidis
Bob Godwin
John Conteh
Melio Bettina
Joe Knight
Marvin Johnson
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Tiger Jack Fox
Al Gainer
Adonis Stevenson
Bernard Hopkins
Lou Scozza
Doug Jones
Antonio Tarver
Sergey Kovalev
Mauro Mina
Fabrice Tiozzo
Eddie Cotton
Dmitrii Bivol
"Irish" Bob Murphy
Glen Johnson
James Scott
Artur Beterbiev
Len Hutchins
Chad Dawson
Tony Anthony
Yaqui Lopez
Lonnie Bennett
George Courtney
Yvon Durelle
Leonard Morrow
Eddie Huffman
Henry Maske
Vicente Rondon
Zsolt Erdei
Yale Okum
Harry "Kid" Matthews
Oakland Billy Smith
Pete Latzo
Jorge Ahumada
Bobby Czyz
Mike Rossman
George "Johnny" Nichols
Richie Kates
Huberto Loayza
Louisiana Martin Burke
Jean Pascal
Murray Sutherland
Pierre Fourie
Charley Belanger
Bob McAllister
Avenamar Peralta
Henry Hall
Jimmy Webb
Mustafa Wasajja
Gustav Scholz
Jesse Burnett
Dennis Andries
Michael "Zulu Kid" Flammia
Al Stillman
Eric Harding
Mike Quarry
Graciano Rocchigiani
Harry Krohn
I'm just a little sad you aint got my man SAAAAAD as a legitimate great.
Dude was a killer in the best modern era of LHWs at the same time as Spinks, Galindez, Johnson, Scott, and seemingly everybody else.
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