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  • #11
    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
    Joey Maxims resume:

    Archie Moore (2x), Ezzard Charles (5x!) , Joe Walcott (3x), Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Bivins, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Machen(2x), Curtis Shappard, Henry Cooperâ¦Ray Robinson

    the list goes on. Of course he has a lot of losses.
    Hell of a resume!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by them_apples View Post

      My apologies on all those weird symbols, I seem to be the only one plagued by it.
      Ya, man. Sluth that down brother.

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      • #13
        Harold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.

        Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Harold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.

          Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.
          He beat Archie Moore?

          edit: they had 5 fights, damn. Talk about education
          Last edited by them_apples; 06-22-2023, 06:43 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Harold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.

            Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.
            Harold was kind of a medium puncher, wasn't he? I figure Charles was a medium puncher too, so no slander.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

              Harold was kind of a medium puncher, wasn't he? I figure Charles was a medium puncher too, so no slander.
              Johnson was a counter puncher who always wanted his opponent to lead.Moore said," Harold makes you do all the work."

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              • #17
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                Harold Johnson beat who most consider #1 and #2 in Charles and Moore.

                Surely has to be an ATG at the weight.
                - - Archie had been beating Johnson like a drum several times. Ez lost a split decision in one fight as the exchamp in his latter days.

                Johnson not an all time great, probably somewhere around IBRO 10-15 mark that is good enough for most folk.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

                  Harold was kind of a medium puncher, wasn't he? I figure Charles was a medium puncher too, so no slander.
                  Yeah, I'd say so.

                  Around there.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Archie had been beating Johnson like a drum several times. Ez lost a split decision in one fight as the exchamp in his latter days.

                    Johnson not an all time great, probably somewhere around IBRO 10-15 mark that is good enough for most folk.
                    Not really. Every one of the Johnson-Moore fights were close, including the one he stopped Johnson in in which Johnson was winning before the stoppage.

                    He also beat Charles clearly despite the SD.

                    So you again showcase the fact you have no clue what you're talking about.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                      Subjective terms - Subjective lists.
                      Nothin' wrong with that; I love me some lists:

                      All Time Greats-
                      Sam Langford
                      Gene Tunney
                      Ezzard Charles
                      Archie Moore
                      Harry Greb
                      Bob Foster
                      Tommy Loughran
                      Michael Spinks
                      Bob Fitzsimmons
                      Jack Dillon
                      Charles Kid McCoy
                      Billy Miske
                      Philadelphia Jack O'Brian
                      Roy Jones Jr.
                      Billy Conn
                      Battling Levinski
                      Georges Carpentier
                      Tommy Gibbons
                      Jack Delaney
                      Young Stribling
                      John Henry Lewis
                      Jimmy Slattery
                      Jimmy Bivins


                      Greats-
                      Paul Berlenbach
                      Maxie Rosenbloom
                      Jack Root
                      Harold Johnson
                      Jeff Clarke
                      Kid Norfolk
                      Victor Galindez
                      Mickey Walker
                      Jose Torres
                      Mike McTigue
                      Lloyd Marshall
                      George Gardner


                      Near Greats-
                      Dariusz Michalczewski
                      Joey Maxim
                      Battling Siki
                      Matthew Saad Muhammad
                      Freddie Mills
                      Dwight Muhammad Qawi
                      Virgil Hill
                      Michael Moorer
                      **** Tiger
                      Willie Pastrano
                      Gus Lesnevich
                      Ad Stone
                      Jack Bonner

                      Very Goods-
                      Too many to mention.....(semantics)..but:
                      Anton Christoforidis
                      Bob Godwin
                      John Conteh
                      Melio Bettina
                      Joe Knight
                      Marvin Johnson
                      Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
                      Tiger Jack Fox
                      Al Gainer
                      Adonis Stevenson
                      Bernard Hopkins
                      Lou Scozza
                      Doug Jones
                      Antonio Tarver
                      Sergey Kovalev
                      Mauro Mina
                      Fabrice Tiozzo
                      Eddie Cotton
                      Dmitrii Bivol
                      "Irish" Bob Murphy
                      Glen Johnson
                      James Scott
                      Artur Beterbiev
                      Len Hutchins
                      Chad Dawson
                      Tony Anthony
                      Yaqui Lopez
                      Lonnie Bennett
                      George Courtney
                      Yvon Durelle
                      Leonard Morrow
                      Eddie Huffman
                      Henry Maske
                      Vicente Rondon
                      Zsolt Erdei
                      Yale Okum
                      Harry "Kid" Matthews
                      Oakland Billy Smith
                      Pete Latzo
                      Jorge Ahumada
                      Bobby Czyz
                      Mike Rossman
                      George "Johnny" Nichols
                      Richie Kates
                      Huberto Loayza
                      Louisiana Martin Burke
                      Jean Pascal
                      Murray Sutherland
                      Pierre Fourie
                      Charley Belanger
                      Bob McAllister
                      Avenamar Peralta
                      Henry Hall
                      Jimmy Webb
                      Mustafa Wasajja
                      Gustav Scholz
                      Jesse Burnett
                      Dennis Andries
                      Michael "Zulu Kid" Flammia
                      Al Stillman
                      Eric Harding
                      Mike Quarry
                      Graciano Rocchigiani
                      Harry Krohn
                      Great, great list man.

                      I'm just a little sad you aint got my man SAAAAAD as a legitimate great.

                      Dude was a killer in the best modern era of LHWs at the same time as Spinks, Galindez, Johnson, Scott, and seemingly everybody else.

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