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  • #31
    Originally posted by historical boxing society View Post
    When I see Wladamir fight it appears to me he is violating Rules on a non-stop basis. He's grabbing and holding and rabbit punching in back of head and slapping on breaks, pushing and doing all kind of stuff. Countless knockdown's are pushes with him.

    I find it hard to take him seriously, the fight with alexander povetkin was disgusting what he was getting away with, frankly it's tough to watch. I couldn't wait for him to disappear and never return again. It seemed a low point in the heavyweight championship. I was a big fan of his brother.

    With any fight with Wlad it's all about how much the referee will let him get away with so it's impossible to predict an outcome when the 3rd man in the ring is basically the most important factor.

    That's just how i see it.
    - - 64-5, 53 Push KOs is it now?

    Blinders?

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    • #32
      i said some knockdowns were pushes, you cant Knock a guy out with a push.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        I think this is pretty accurate. I may argue about the Foreman fight, but I can see it both ways. Please read and discuss.

        https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...thers.amp.html
        Foreman?

        WTF are they smoking????

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          Morrison had the same problem though.
          Morrison had that Wilder-like eraser

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          • #35
            Originally posted by historical boxing society View Post
            When I see Wladamir fight it appears to me he is violating Rules on a non-stop basis. He's grabbing and holding and rabbit punching in back of head and slapping on breaks, pushing and doing all kind of stuff. Countless knockdown's are pushes with him.
            That's just how i see it.
            - - So many you lost count, or too many to count?

            80% KO ratio implies more power than 99.99% of the heavies in history.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by kara View Post

              Morrison had that Wilder-like eraser
              Very true.
              kara kara likes this.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - So many you lost count, or too many to count?

                80% KO ratio implies more power than 99.99% of the heavies in history.
                The most boring knockout puncher in history. Can anyone....ANYONE, name me a great knockout pu Cher more boring than Wlad? He was fun to watch before he got knocked out by Sanders and Brewster. After the oy lights going out where my eye lids shutting from boredom.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  The most boring knockout puncher in history. Can anyone....ANYONE, name me a great knockout pu Cher more boring than Wlad? He was fun to watch before he got knocked out by Sanders and Brewster. After the oy lights going out where my eye lids shutting from boredom.
                  - - We already knew you couldn't handle your liquor, so no biggie...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    The most boring knockout puncher in history. Can anyone....ANYONE, name me a great knockout pu Cher more boring than Wlad? He was fun to watch before he got knocked out by Sanders and Brewster. After the oy lights going out where my eye lids shutting from boredom.
                    Well, how about John Ruiz? I mean he wasn't great, but he has only 14 more decision wins than knockouts, while Wlad had 11 more decision wins than KO/TKO wins. Like Vitali, he was a paper champ and like Wlad, could be pretty dull. And a lot of knockout wins against not a lot of great opponents like Wlad lol.

                    Do you think if Emanuel Stewart had lived on that Wlad would have retired still as champion? I think there would have at least been a chance.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post

                      Well, how about John Ruiz? I mean he wasn't great, but he has only 14 more decision wins than knockouts, while Wlad had 11 more decision wins than KO/TKO wins. Like Vitali, he was a paper champ and like Wlad, could be pretty dull. And a lot of knockout wins against not a lot of great opponents like Wlad lol.

                      Do you think if Emanuel Stewart had lived on that Wlad would have retired still as champion? I think there would have at least been a chance.
                      Yes, more boring than Ruiz, because he had more talent and ability to dispatch of fighters but fought scared.

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