Who'd win, Laszlo Papp or Joey Giardello??

[markusmod]

- - Lazlo was 31 years old making his pro debut and 38 in his last fight.





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Becoming more of a trend these days.

[Ivich]

Becoming more of a trend these days.

What idiots posting mis -information?

[QueensburyRules]

Becoming more of a trend these days.

- - Loma as a 3x Olympic Gold Medalist was 25 years old making his pro debut.

Wrap yourself around those mathematical statistics!!!

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Loma as a 3x Olympic Gold Medalist was 25 years old making his pro debut.

Wrap yourself around those mathematical statistics!!!

Not three, two.

2X Olympic Gold - 2008 (age 19/20) 2012 London (age 23/24).

2X World Champion Gold; 1X Silver

1X Jr. World Champion Gold

Age seems just about right. 25 is a touch late, by maybe three years.

Just as an example Nino Benvenuti was an Olympic Champion in 1960. Making his pro debute in 1961 age 22/23, which is normal.

Not sure what you are saying about Lomachecko.

I just read someone calling Benvenuti overrated and lucky to be a champion, IMO it is Lomachecko who is greatly overrated.

Benvenuti's amatuer record was 190-1-0 (how come no one mentions that) and then won something like 63 straight fights at Jr. MW before losing a fight (a questionable decision in Korea to a Korean) and by the time he was unseated by Monzon he had fought eight, (and defeated seven) of The Ring's top ten ranked MW. How many champions can you named that cleared out their division that throughly? Only a few I suspect. Yet he gets no respect.

On the other hand Loma hangs around and fights in a second Olympic games he really didn't belong in, runs up an unnecessary amateur record, and then puts together a 16-2-0 professional record and you guys get all wet between the legs over this guy?

I don't get it. I guess I'm not as knowledgeable as you guys.

His numbers are not that impressive, there are many fighters with overwhelming amateur records they just don't stay amateurs for four extra years and run up their numbers against fighters with considerably less experience (kids) like Loma did. His pro record is actually not that impressive; Lopez made him look like a scared amateur.

I just don't get this Lomachecko love affair you guys have. His numbers are inflated by staying an amateur too long, and the one time I have seen him fight he stunk the place out.

[Ivich]

Not three, two.

2X Olympic Gold - 2008 (age 19/20) 2012 London (age 23/24).

2X World Champion Gold; 1X Silver

1X Jr. World Champion Gold

Age seems just about right. 25 is a touch late, by maybe three years.

Just as an example Nino Benvenuti was an Olympic Champion in 1960. Making his pro debute in 1961 age 22/23, which is normal.

Not sure what you are saying about Lomachecko.

I just read someone calling Benvenuti overrated and lucky to be a champion, IMO it is Lomachecko who is greatly overrated.

Benvenuti's amatuer record was 190-1-0 (how come no one mentions that) and then won something like 63 straight fights at Jr. MW before losing a fight (a questionable decision in Korea to a Korean) and by the time he was unseated by Monzon he had fought eight, (and defeated seven) of The Ring's top ten ranked MW. How many champions can you named that cleared out their division that throughly? Only a few I suspect. Yet he gets no respect.

On the other hand Loma hangs around and fights in a second Olympic games he really didn't belong in, runs up an unnecessary amateur record, and then puts together a 16-2-0 professional record and you guys get all wet between the legs over this guy?

I don't get it. I guess I'm not as knowledgeable as you guys.

His numbers are not that impressive, there are many fighters with overwhelming amateur records they just don't stay amateurs for four extra years and run up their numbers against fighters with considerably less experience (kids) like Loma did. His pro record is actually not that impressive; Lopez made him look like a scared amateur.

I just don't get this Lomachecko love affair you guys have. His numbers are inflated by staying an amateur too long, and the one time I have seen him fight he stunk the place out.

Left Hook thinks Benvenuti was overated and Monzon beat weak opposition.

[Anthony342]

Left Hook thinks Benvenuti was overated and Monzon beat weak opposition.

Why I put his ass on ignore.

[markusmod]

- - Loma as a 3x Olympic Gold Medalist was 25 years old making his pro debut.

Wrap yourself around those mathematical statistics!!!

I personally felt he stayed amateur for too long

[Ivich]

I personally felt he stayed amateur for too long

Yes, as did Golovkin.imo.

[QueensburyRules]

Not three, two.

2X Olympic Gold - 2008 (age 19/20) 2012 London (age 23/24).

2X World Champion Gold; 1X Silver

1X Jr. World Champion Gold

Age seems just about right. 25 is a touch late, by maybe three years.

Just as an example Nino Benvenuti was an Olympic Champion in 1960. Making his pro debute in 1961 age 22/23, which is normal.

Not sure what you are saying about Lomachecko.

I just read someone calling Benvenuti overrated and lucky to be a champion, IMO it is Lomachecko who is greatly overrated.

Benvenuti's amatuer record was 190-1-0 (how come no one mentions that) and then won something like 63 straight fights at Jr. MW before losing a fight (a questionable decision in Korea to a Korean) and by the time he was unseated by Monzon he had fought eight, (and defeated seven) of The Ring's top ten ranked MW. How many champions can you named that cleared out their division that throughly? Only a few I suspect. Yet he gets no respect.

On the other hand Loma hangs around and fights in a second Olympic games he really didn't belong in, runs up an unnecessary amateur record, and then puts together a 16-2-0 professional record and you guys get all wet between the legs over this guy?

I don't get it. I guess I'm not as knowledgeable as you guys.

His numbers are not that impressive, there are many fighters with overwhelming amateur records they just don't stay amateurs for four extra years and run up their numbers against fighters with considerably less experience (kids) like Loma did. His pro record is actually not that impressive; Lopez made him look like a scared amateur.

I just don't get this Lomachecko love affair you guys have. His numbers are inflated by staying an amateur too long, and the one time I have seen him fight he stunk the place out.

- - Sir, I am seldom corrected, and thank you for reminding me.

All that glittering gold and 396-1 record blinded me.

Took his first pro loss with the always deplorable Laurence Cole riding his back as Salido who didn't bother to make weight for this fight low blowed, hit on the break, elbowed, rabbit punched in between head butts. And still had Salido ready to go but for Cole interference.

Thought you or anyone had more honor than to believe that was anything but one of the most fixed fights in the history of top championship fights to be had against an amateur with a pro record of 1-0, 1KO with less than 4 rounds boxing experience.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Sir, I am seldom corrected, and thank you for reminding me.

All that glittering gold and 396-1 record blinded me.

Took his first pro loss with the always deplorable Laurence Cole riding his back as Salido who didn't bother to make weight for this fight low blowed, hit on the break, elbowed, rabbit punched in between head butts. And still had Salido ready to go but for Cole interference.

Thought you or anyone had more honor than to believe that was anything but one of the most fixed fights in the history of top championship fights to be had against an amateur with a pro record of 1-0, 1KO with less than 4 rounds boxing experience.

Never saw it - I have heard more than a few claim he got jobbed. Sorry if I was unnecessarily rude about it.

But have always been a bit annoyed when they point to his extraordinary amateur record. No doubt it is an amazing achievement but as I said he really didn't belong in that second Olympics. Imagine if Clay had stayed an amateur and fought in Tokyo in '64? My God his record would have been staggering; or even Benvenuti, already at 190-1 he may have come close to 400 wins if he stayed an amateur.

I am sorry that I have not seen him fight other than the Lopez fight. I am certain that is not what he is . . . I know he dominated in his last outing but didn't watch.