Class in session for Old School Skill Deniers ..like moneytheman!!!!!!!

[Bundana]

[QUOTE=Willie Pep 229;n31502769]

I'm not quite sure, what you're saying here! Isn't this a trivia question, where we're supposed to find the shortest way to connect two boxers, through wins (or losses)? Or is there another meaning to this, that I'm not getting? [/QUOTE]

It's fun to try to do.

Great job by Wisp, but HWs are realistic. Who can get Hagler back to Ketchel?

I can't. I would need to give up hours on Boxrec.

Can you? Chasing the champions makes it easier but sometimes you got to go to contenders like Wisp did, to get there.

Me thinks MW is the second most famous weight class.

Yea, it's trivia, but for geeks like us its got great play to it.

P.S. Screw the whole moneytheman point being made, it's just a poorly functioning bot. . . . "Oh Fritz, for God's sake, just leave it alone."

OK, I'll give Hagler-Ketchel a try:

Hagler > Minter > Griffith > Tiger > Torres > Pastrano > Harold Johnson > Charles > Moore > Ham Pounder > Brad Simmons > Johnson > Ketchel

[Willow The Wisp]

[QUOTE=Bundana;n31502879]

OK, I'll give Hagler-Ketchel a try:

Hagler > Minter > Griffith > Tiger > Torres > Pastrano > Harold Johnson > Charles > Moore > Ham Pounder > Brad Simmons > Johnson > Ketchel

That's excellent, and evoking Ham Pounder in any discussion curres favor with me. But again, the magic is in working backwards with the earlier fighter as the WINNER. Hagler > Watts, Munoz, Perkins........

[Willow The Wisp]

What's amatta, you crazy ijit?

I'm all that & a bag a chips!

[The Old LefHook]

I will have to learn a better imitation of Moneytheman.

[Anthony342]

[QUOTE=Willow The Wisp;n31502937]

That's excellent, and evoking Ham Pounder in any discussion curres favor with me. But again, the magic is in working backwards with the earlier fighter as the WINNER. Hagler > Watts, Munoz, Perkins........

Ham Pounder sounds like a good name to use if you ever get into adult films.

[Cross Trainer]

I'm not sure this kind of "A beat B beat C beat D...therefore A is as good as D" reasoning works, because fighters don't always perform at their bests. Sometimes they drop losses to inferior fighters. Sometimes they're also out of their primes, or not yet in them.

For example:

Bobby Warthen (13-9-0 at the time) beat Vicente Rondon, who beat Jose Luis Garcia, who beat Norton, who beat Ali.

But Ali > Bobby Warthen.

I could've probably dug up somebody with a worse record than Warthen, but Boxrec doesn't allow non-members to dig very deeply.

Very impressive detective work, though.

[Bundana]

I'm not sure this kind of "A beat B beat C beat D...therefore A is as good as D" reasoning works, because fighters don't always perform at their bests. Sometimes they drop losses to inferior fighters. Sometimes they're also out of their primes, or not yet in them.

For example:

Bobby Warthen (13-9-0 at the time) beat Vicente Rondon, who beat Jose Luis Garcia, who beat Norton, who beat Ali.

But Ali > Bobby Warthen.

I could've probably dug up somebody with a worse record than Warthen, but Boxrec doesn't allow non-members to dig very deeply.

Very impressive detective work, though.

No, of course it doesn't. It's just a fun game, and nothing can be inferred from it... as we can basically "prove" anything we like this way. For example, it takes no more than a handfull of moves to show, how Jimmy Wilde would beat Primo Carnera... which naturally would be an absurd idea in the real world!

[The Old LefHook]

[QUOTE=Anthony342;n31503262]

Ham Pounder sounds like a good name to use if you ever get into adult films.

You can't beat Ham Pounder, the ladies all giggled.

[Willie Pep 229]

No, of course it doesn't. It's just a fun game, and nothing can be inferred from it... as we can basically "prove" anything we like this way. For example, it takes no more than a handfull of moves to show, how Jimmy Wilde would beat Primo Carnera... which naturally would be an absurd idea in the real world!

No you can't, go for it! -- define "handfull" first.

Can you do it in six. ("six degrees of separation")

Wilde and Carnera don't count in the six.

[Bundana]

No you can't, go for it! -- define "handfull" first.

Can you do it in six. ("six degrees of separation")

Wilde and Carnera don't count in the six.

What do you mean I can't? Of course I can - or I wouldn't have said so!:

Wilde > George Gloria > George Carpentier > Marcel Nilles > Larry Gains > Carnera