Modern Fighter (1920-2022) Knocked Down The Most

[Willie Pep 229]

Over at the Boxrec Forum a few years ago we figured it out together for the lineal HW Champions only.

But I think we found every KD.

Group Effort.

[Willie Pep 229]

I have some concerns about my Patterson information.

Did Quarry KD Patterson twice in Round 2 of their first fight?

Did Liston KD Patterson three times in their second fight?

I am uncertain about those two numbers/fights.

Feel pretty good about the rest.

[The Old LefHook]

Charles had 121 fights and was knocked down 30 times, Quarry knocked Pattersn down twice, and the announcer mentioned that Floyd had not been knocked down in a no-title fight since his third. Patterson had 64 fights, and was knocked down.

Charles=24.79% chance of being knocked down
Patterson=25.00% chance of being knocked down

Patterson narrowly edges Charles in the percentage category, though Charles wins easily the the absolute number category. Few, if any, fine fighters have gone down 30 times in their career, especially a truly great one.

[The Old LefHook]

I have some concerns about my Patterson information.

Did Quarry KD Patterson twice in Round 2 of their first fight?

Did Liston KD Patterson three times in their second fight?

I am uncertain about those two numbers/fights.

Feel pretty good about the rest.

Both numbers are correct, Wilbur.

[The Old LefHook]

Floyd Patterson a total of 22 times in 11 fights

01. Jacques Royer Crecy ::: (1) ::: St. Nicholas Arena, New York ::: 12/07/1954 ::: Down Round 1 ::: W TKO

02. Pete Radamacher ::: (1) ::: Sicks' Stadium, Seattle ::: 22/08/1957 ::: Down Round 2 ::: W KO

03. Roy Harris ::: (1) ::: Wrigley Field, Los Angeles ::: 18/08/1955 ::: Down Round 2 ::: W RTD

04. Ingemar Johansson I ::: (7) ::: Yankee Stadium, The Bronx ::: 26/06/1959 ::: Down Round 3 ::: L KO

05. Ingemar Johansson III ::: (2) ::: Convention Center, Miami Beach ::: 13/03/1961 ::: Down Round 1 ::: W KO

06. Sonny Liston I ::: (1) ::: Comiskey Park, Chicago ::: 25/09/1962 ::: Down Round 1 ::: L KO

07. Sonny Liston II ::: (3) ::: Convention Center, Las Vegas ::: 22/07/1963 ::: Down Round 1 (3) ::: L KO

08. Muhammad Ali I ::: (1) ::: Convention Center, Las Vegas ::: 22/11/1965 ::: Down Round 6 ::: L TKO

09. Jerry Quarry I ::: (2) ::: Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles ::: 09/06/1967 ::: Down Round 2 (2) ::: D MD

10. Jerry Quarry II ::: (2) ::: Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles ::: 28/10/1967 ::: Down Rounds 2 & 4 ::: L MD

11. Oscar Bonavena ::: (1) ::: Madison Square Garden, New York ::: 11/02/1972 ::: Down Round 4 ::: W UD

Great. I don't know where you got the information. Patterson runs away with it now, with 34.27 percent chance of being knocked down.

Of course this silly method only gives us a rough yardstick in terms we are familiar with, i.e., the arithmetic average, which behaves as if the knockdowns were perfectly distributed, either every 3rd or 4th fight, depending on whether you are Patterson or Charles. Of course we know knockdowns are usually clumped together, most often near the end of the career. Still, a small morsel of information is derived from the arithmetic average.

[The Old LefHook]

If those knockouts on Wilbur's list are in order, then Patterson must have been knocked down in each of his first three fights. That itself might be a record for champs. As Apples might say:

He packed a lot of glass.

[The Old LefHook]

You never had to worry about a Patterson fight being dull!

[DeeMoney]

Yes - 30 times in only 12 fights.

Ezzard Charles (The Cincinnati Cobra)

01. Billy Bengal ::: (1) ::: Music Hall Arena, Cincinnati ::: 10/02/1941 ::: Down Round 7 ::: W UD

02. Lloyd Marshall I ::: (8) ::: Arena, Cleveland ::: 31/03/1943 ::: Down Rounds 1 (2) & 3 & 5 & 7 (2) & 8 (2) ::: L TKO

03. Jimmy Bivens I::: (4) ::: Arena, Cleveland ::: 07/01/1943 ::: Down Rounds 3 & 4 & 5 & 8 ::: L UD

04. Fitize Fitzpatrick ::: (1) ::: Crosley Field, Cincinnati ::: 14/07/1947 ::: Down Round 2 ::: W KO

05. Lloyd Marshall II ::: (1) ::: Crosley Field, Cincinnati ::: 29/09/1947 ::: Down Round 1 ::: W KO

06. Jersey Joe Walcott III ::: (1) ::: Forbes Field, Pittsburgh ::: 18/07/1951 ::: Down Round 7 ::: L KO

07. Rocky, Marciano II ::: (3) ::: Yankee Stadium, The Bronx ::: 17/09/1954 ::: Down Rounds 2 & 8 (2) ::: L KO

08. John Holman I ::: (3) ::: Auditorium, Miami Beach ::: 27/04/1955 :: Down Rounds 1 & 9 (2) ::: L TKO

09. Paul Andrews ::: (1) ::: Chicago Stadium, Chicago ::: 13/07/1955 ::: Down Round 2 ::: W SD

10. Harry Matthews ::: (1) ::: Sicks' Stadium, Seattle ::: 31/08/1956 ::: Down Round 1 ::: L UD

11. Donnie Fleeman ::: (3) ::: Memorial Auditorium, Dallas ::: 27/10/1958 ::: Down Rounds 5 (2) & 6 ::: L KO

12. George Logan ::: (3) ::: Fairgrounds Arena, Boise ::: 30/07/1959 ::: Down Rounds 1 & 3 & 8 ::: L KO

Charles was knocked down 12 times, in 1943 alone. Thats crazy

[Willie Pep 229]

Charles was knocked down 12 times, in 1943 alone. Thats crazy

That 8 KD fight is bizarre - four years later he comes back to stop Marshall but still suffered another KD before stopping him in two. Kind of a nemesis. Marshall looks to be a pug with many fights and irinicallt not much of a punch. Must be why Charles keot getting up. Only 36 KKOs in over 90 fights. Go figure.

[The Old LefHook]

Over at the Boxrec Forum a few years ago we figured it out together for the lineal HW Champions only.

But I think we found every KD.

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