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  • #71
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    He also defended his "title",against 3 unranked journeymen. If Frazier wasn't in the best condition when he took on Foreman because he had been beating up on no hopers,while Ali was taking on ;
    Ellis
    Mathis
    Blin
    Foster
    Chuvalo
    Quarry
    Lewis
    Patterson
    Foster B
    In the same timescale window.


    Whose fault was that?
    - - U going all weak in U jelly knees now, is it?

    Ali took on Joe leftovers, ie Ellis, 400lb diabetic, 2 years inactive Mathis, Bob Foster, Quarry, Chuvalo, ie legit contenders when Joe fought them and knocked em out easy.

    Blinn? Really?
    Ol' Floyd in his retirement bout? Really?
    Blue Lewis?
    Mac Foster the only legit contender Ali fought had never been past midrounds as a KO artist recently KO by Quarry the only legit contender type Ali fought.

    It's like U was born yesterday yet again, a mountain of yesterdays piling up like rusted hulks in a dock waiting for the slow boat to China.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - U going all weak in U jelly knees now, is it?

      Ali took on Joe leftovers, ie Ellis, 400lb diabetic, 2 years inactive Mathis, Bob Foster, Quarry, Chuvalo, ie legit contenders when Joe fought them and knocked em out easy.

      Blinn? Really?
      Ol' Floyd in his retirement bout? Really?
      Blue Lewis?
      Mac Foster the only legit contender Ali fought had never been past midrounds as a KO artist recently KO by Quarry the only legit contender type Ali fought.

      It's like U was born yesterday yet again, a mountain of yesterdays piling up like rusted hulks in a dock waiting for the slow boat to China.
      0kay lets look at your statements.
      Ellis was no 6 Quarry was no 2,Patterson no7.Foster no5. So legit contenders.
      Chuvalo would not lose again after Ali beat him.
      Mathis scaled 256lbs for their fight.
      Blin won the Euro title 6 months later.
      Patterson hadnt lost a fight in 4 years a highly debateable decision to WBA champ Ellis.Oh and he had beaten Daniels 14 months earlier.
      Would any of these men be the betting underdog against Stander and Daniels?
      Try and up your game FFS!
      It's fine to have a pop at me but do make sure you have some ammunition to do it with next time!LOL
      Last edited by Ivich; 06-10-2022, 07:39 AM.
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      • #73
        Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post
        Yes I know he's a legend Big George im a fan of his too. But his resume is thin. In his 1st career he was protected and after 37 fights fought Joe Frazier for the title. He completely dominated him, great win. He had 2 other defenses one vs Ken Norton, who was coming off a loss, and dominated him, great win. He then lost to an older Ali. He had a few more fights and the lost to Jimmy Young. He then retires from boxing.


        Years later (10) he makes his come back and changes his image around. He fights a bunch of tuneups (most notably against a coming out of retirement Gerry Cooney) and then fights Evander Holyfield for the title. He does better than people thought but still loses clearly. He then cherry picks Tommy Morrison after Morrison got chined by Ray Mercer and loses almost every single round. He then cherry picks Michael Moorer after Morrer beat Holyfield (he didn't fight Bowe after Bowe beat Holyfield) and knocks him out after losing every round prior. Great win and great accomplishment.

        He then vacates the belt to avoid fighting his mandatory Tony Tucker and doesn't fight any of the major competition for the rest of his career ruining the lineal title.

        He has a padded record. He has like 10 fights vs legitimate competition and lost around half of them


        George Foreman for me doesn't have enough strong wins to be considered better than Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko but often times is ranked ahead of them on all time lists. History remembers him well because of his personality and being in the Golden era of heavyweights with Ali, Fraizer, and Norton.

        What do you guys think?

        Most of the guys yall praise don't have 10 legitimate fights.

        Calzaghe don't have 10 legitimate fights.

        Wlad klitschko don't have 10 legitimate fights.

        Tyson fury don't have 10 legitimate fights.

        I can go on and on

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        • #74
          Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

          I understand your point about the comeback and yes it was an incredible achievement. But you said that no one ever came close and that is not true. Larry Holmes almost beat Oliver McCall at age 45. Wladimir Klitschko almost beat Anthony Joshua at age 41. Even Holyfield really shouldve gotten the nod vs Valuev at age 48 (Although he was a paper champion). Foreman was great but I don't think he did enough to be considered better than fighters who had long sustained runs such as Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, or Wladimir Klitschko.
          - - Geez, talk about damning with faint praise, Ollie Crack Daddy McCall! Topped by the cherry of unlicensed Vander whom no top fighter wanted to fight lest injuring his dissipation any further!

          Tubby Lar who used to be skinny got a hernia trying to carry Rocky's jock strap because he NEVER, EVER, beat a standing champ holding a title won in the ring, 0-6, 0 KOs in that metric. A single belt holder in a multibelt era he helped to create. Vitali has a better record than Lewis and retired Lewie in forever disgrace.

          Please, I do tire beating up Lar and the rest of U derelicts, so sir, I insist U cease and desist!,

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Hustle View Post


            Most of the guys yall praise don't have 10 legitimate fights.

            Calzaghe don't have 10 legitimate fights.

            Wlad klitschko don't have 10 legitimate fights.

            Tyson fury don't have 10 legitimate fights.

            I can go on and on
            Wlad definitely does

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            • #76
              Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

              Wlad definitely does
              bull****....

              Name them

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                bull****....

                Name them
                Byrd 1 &2, Haye, Peter, Sanders, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings, Tony Thompson, Eddie Chambers, Joshua, Fury, Monte Barrett.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                  Byrd 1 &2, Haye, Peter, Sanders, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin, Pulev, Jennings, Tony Thompson, Eddie Chambers, Joshua, Fury, Monte Barrett.
                  Fury, Joshua, Haye, and I'll give you byrd...


                  The rest of them guys made no impact in boxing.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                    Fury, Joshua, Haye, and I'll give you byrd...


                    The rest of them guys made no impact in boxing.
                    Because Wladimir Klitschko beat them. They were all legit contenders.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post

                      Because Wladimir Klitschko beat them. They were all legit contenders.
                      I'll take wins over Frazier and Norton over Haye, byrd, Ibragimov, chagaev, chambers any day of the week
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