Chamberlain Scared of Ali

[QueensburyRules]

First solid punch by any top ten heavyweight would have ended the fight. Wilt was not a fighter and you cannot make a fighter out of basketball player, PERIOD.

- - U projecting U intellectual limitations on a one off transcendental athlete and intellect ain't a good look.

Just like prime Lar won't fight WBA champs, Ali won't sign the contract for the 67 fight, ie their limitations running parallel with yours..

[JAB5239]

Wilt wasn't even the best in his own sport. Russell over Chamberlain and the championships prove it. Wilt didn't show up for the big games. He'd fold like a lawn chair in the white hot spotlight against Ali. FACTS!!

[Willie Pep 229]

Wilt wasn't even the best in his own sport. Russell over Chamberlain and the championships prove it. Wilt didn't show up for the big games. He'd fold like a lawn chair in the white hot spotlight against Ali. FACTS!!

I got to give Chamberlain's side of the story here. Yes Russell was certainly great but Russell got to play on one of the greatest teams in NBA history - a major advantage when taking on Chamberlain down the lane.

Point in case: John Havelcheck (sp) may very well be the only 6th man to make it into the NBA HOF. Imagine a HOFer and he can't break into the starting line up? That's one hell of a team (1960s Celtics) Russell had at his back.

It was Chamberlain's '76s who were the only team able to interrupt the absurd Celtics 1960s championship run . . .

[JAB5239]

I got to give Chamberlain's side of the story here. Yes Russell was certainly great but Russell got to play on one of the greatest teams in NBA history - a major advantage when taking on Chamberlain down the lane.

Point in case: John Havelcheck (sp) may very well be the only 6th man to make it into the NBA HOF. Imagine a HOFer and he can't break into the starting line up? That's one hell of a team (1960s Celtics) Russell had at his back.

It was Chamberlain's '76s who were the only team able to interrupt the absurd Celtics 1960s championship run . . .

Havilcek isn't the only 6th man to make the hall of fame. And I'm not saying Wilt wasn't great, but he couldn't carry his teams more times than not over the pinnacle. Russell on the other hand did these things regularly and was a better team player which equals greater team success. We could argue statistics all day and still have a different opinion. My point to all this though is that if it's arguable whether he was even the best player during his time on the basketball court, who in their right mind would argue he is comparable to Ali in a boxing match? It's as absurd as saying because Ali was the best heavyweight of his time he could beat Jerry West in a game of one on one. Trying to say that a great athlete from one sport automatically would make him competitive against a great athlete in another sport, it's ridiculous.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - Chamberlain was a one off historical athlete who hated basketball, but it paid tuition with an unparalleled record setting pro career as the highest paid pro athlete of his day. The typical 2 dimensional lineal thinking citizen lacks intellectual capacity to understand that level of athleticism that would've preferred the 64/68 Olympics in track and field and decathlon like Jim Thorpe before him.

When the Ali fight was most prescient and internationally compelling was 1967 in what turned out to be his last year before gu'mint draft evasion charges and boxing suspensions kicked in. The story goes rightly or wrongly that Herbert took one look at Wilt and told Ali you ain't fighting him.

The video evidence is irrevocable. Wilt made Ali look like a 6 year old school boy as he badgered Ali to sign the contract as arranged by Cosell and ABC to take place in the ABC studio, and Ali wouldn't or more likely couldn't go against Herbert's dictates. Malcolm had first been firebombed and later assassinated, and while Ali weren't the brightest, he knew enough to not want the same result.

The other 2-3x the fight was proposed, Wilt like Babe Ruth was just using boxing to leverage favorable contract signings. An Ali fight then was near worthless because of political and venue insurance liabilities revolving around potential casualties if the NOI kicked off, so in $um total, more and more never enough money to get Wilt out of the gate.

I apologize first, but.......Unabashed trolling of hobby & interest message boards is a perversion indicative of mental illness. Doing it dressed up with some semblance of factual command or eloquence does not dismiss the former argument, it enforces it. Ali would have had a better chance of breaking Wilt's 100 points in a game record than Chamberlain would have had at winning a round against Ali. Wilt's acumen applied to whatever endeavors a seven-foot athlete might try are entirely inapplicable to a fight, much less a gloved Boxing Match. Don't be silly.

[Ropss]

- - U projecting U intellectual limitations on a one off transcendental athlete and intellect ain't a good look.

Just like prime Lar won't fight WBA champs, Ali won't sign the contract for the 67 fight, ie their limitations running parallel with yours..

Holmes is the goat stay mad beat Ali

[QueensburyRules]

I apologize first, but.......Unabashed trolling of hobby & interest message boards is a perversion indicative of mental illness. Doing it dressed up with some semblance of factual command or eloquence does not dismiss the former argument, it enforces it. Ali would have had a better chance of breaking Wilt's 100 points in a game record than Chamberlain would have had at winning a round against Ali. Wilt's acumen applied to whatever endeavors a seven-foot athlete might try are entirely inapplicable to a fight, much less a gloved Boxing Match. Don't be silly.

- - Apology accepted.

Now as to other sports, Ali was untrainable. Archie Moore couldn't do a damn thing with him, and so ALI picked Dundee who still couldn't do anything with him until he figured how to plant an idea in his mind that Ali would mull over until it became his own idea and was implemented.

If beating Wilt were so easy, than Herbert and Ali wouldn't have humiliated themselves in public in front of millions of listeners by balking to the lucrative terms they had already agreed to. The fight was projected to be the biggest international fight since Joe Louis/Max Schmeling 2.

Wilt's intellect has the perfect intellect in D'Amato to crack the Ali code as Cus famously left the disbelieving Ali with a cut eye after showing him the move Frazier used that was going to beat him.

Old gods are terrible to look at when they weep, all bloated like spoiled fish