What Made Ezzard Charles such a fantastic fighter. From a technical Viewpoint.

[Willow The Wisp]

Stony was right out of the Burgess Meredith mold from Rocky. Did Duva and Stony ever work opposing corners? There would be your undercard entertainment right there.

Oh, buddy! The Summerville Boxing club.
Summerville was jokingly referred to as "Slummerville" (or Slummah Ville, in the vernacular of the area) back when I had dealings with allot of the gyms in and around Upstate NY and the New England area. The experience brought me into the orbit of the Petronelli brothers (Marvin Hagler, Robbie Sims, Lou Bizzarro, Steve Collins, Drake Thadzi), Al Clemente, Johnny Dunn, Jimmy Connolly, Bill Ebel and the New Garden Gym (Jack O'Halloran, Vinny Curto, Danny Long, Sean Mannion), The Whitman Gym and Vinnie Vecchione (Hurricane Peter McNeeley, Jimmy Corkum, an exceptional Jr. Welterweight who went on to graduate Johns Hopkins from a 40-3 fight career, to becoming a noted Gastroenterologist) and so many others. A gym with pros and amateur fighters working out in every large and small city back then. South Boston, Lowell, Brockton, Lynn, Attleboro, Worcester, New Bedford, Fall River, Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Providence, Manchester, NH, etc., etc. Boxing is more of a foreign sport today than it was 40+ years ago. In the US, boxing was Boxing and MMA today all rolled into one - Plus some.
Even then, Norman Stone was a colorful character in a world of colorful characters. Street fighting legend, decorated Vietnam War veteran, uncontrollable temper, loved his gym and took care of his fighters.
Was he the the jerk they made him out to be on HBO? Meh. Ya, sure. Whateva!

[The Old LefHook]

Stoney was made for TV. Didn't know he was a street fighting legend.

[billeau2]

Stony was right out of the Burgess Meredith mold from Rocky. Did Duva and Stony ever work opposing corners? There would be your undercard entertainment right there.

Yeah! making sure it was "retro cell phone night" the bigger and bulkier the better... heck, bring a sock to stick the thing in and sing it around! instant Black Jack! Remnds me of the good old days when you used to have a lot of Polish people making the decisions... My personal favorite: BAT Day was a venerable tradition wence the fans entering the game would all get a decent sized bat as a souvenier. Well... Lets make sure we have "Bat day" during a double header!!! I mean what could go wrong? Drunk Puerto Ricans, hot game during the day... And whats better than that? How about very drunk Puerto Ricans (two games...) very hot weather and the California Angels who look up in abject terror to see a whole stadium full of very very drunk Puerto Ricans... with baseball bats... who are very very upset that the ****** Yankees are trailing 8 to nothing going into the 9th inning.

The rest is history, the California Angels no doubt are a little scared, maybe that is why they keep dropping the balls, as the yankees catch up, or could it be the deafening sound of lots of very drunk Puerto Ricans hitting the seats very hard with the bats, threatening the Angels team? Entertainent for the ages!!

[billeau2]

Oh, buddy! The Summerville Boxing club.
Summerville was jokingly referred to as "Slummerville" (or Slummah Ville, in the vernacular of the area) back when I had dealings with allot of the gyms in and around Upstate NY and the New England area. The experience brought me into the orbit of the Petronelli brothers (Marvin Hagler, Robbie Sims, Lou Bizzarro, Steve Collins, Drake Thadzi), Al Clemente, Johnny Dunn, Jimmy Connolly, Bill Ebel and the New Garden Gym (Jack O'Halloran, Vinny Curto, Danny Long, Sean Mannion), The Whitman Gym and Vinnie Vecchione (Hurricane Peter McNeeley, Jimmy Corkum, an exceptional Jr. Welterweight who went on to graduate Johns Hopkins from a 40-3 fight career, to becoming a noted Gastroenterologist) and so many others. A gym with pros and amateur fighters working out in every large and small city back then. South Boston, Lowell, Brockton, Lynn, Attleboro, Worcester, New Bedford, Fall River, Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Providence, Manchester, NH, etc., etc. Boxing is more of a foreign sport today than it was 40+ years ago. In the US, boxing was Boxing and MMA today all rolled into one - Plus some.
Even then, Norman Stone was a colorful character in a world of colorful characters. Street fighting legend, decorated Vietnam War veteran, uncontrollable temper, loved his gym and took care of his fighters.
Was he the the jerk they made him out to be on HBO? Meh. Ya, sure. Whateva!

Love Stoney... Yes a real Mensch. Reminds me of one of my two favorite Yankee players as a kid (Billie Martin and Thurman Munson). Martin was a viscious street fighter... he would also stay out the longest and sign autographs for us kids. It was like being next to royalty for us when we would see Billy come out. And then we could read about him decking marshmellow salesmen, the works!

[Willie Pep 229]

Stony was right out of the Burgess Meredith mold from Rocky. Did Duva and Stony ever work opposing corners? There would be your undercard entertainment right there.

Doesn't look to be . . . Boxrec has Stone as manager/trainer to only two fighters, Ruiz and Alexander Popov.

Can't think of any Duva fighters that might have encountered those two.

Do you know how one can find out if Stone trained (but did not manage) any other fighters?

It looks as though Boxrec only records trainers if they are also manager.

Maybe I'm missing something in my searches?

[QueensburyRules]

- - By the time of Quiet Man Ruiz poor Stoney had entered that phase of life where he was starting to knock himself out, but it was always an epic encounter to be sure.

Pretty sure Lou couldn't fight his way out of a bowl of pasta, so prime vs prime in their latter trainer days, could be veeerily interesting for necromancing promoters.

[Anthony342]

Oh, buddy! The Summerville Boxing club.
Summerville was jokingly referred to as "Slummerville" (or Slummah Ville, in the vernacular of the area) back when I had dealings with allot of the gyms in and around Upstate NY and the New England area. The experience brought me into the orbit of the Petronelli brothers (Marvin Hagler, Robbie Sims, Lou Bizzarro, Steve Collins, Drake Thadzi), Al Clemente, Johnny Dunn, Jimmy Connolly, Bill Ebel and the New Garden Gym (Jack O'Halloran, Vinny Curto, Danny Long, Sean Mannion), The Whitman Gym and Vinnie Vecchione (Hurricane Peter McNeeley, Jimmy Corkum, an exceptional Jr. Welterweight who went on to graduate Johns Hopkins from a 40-3 fight career, to becoming a noted Gastroenterologist) and so many others. A gym with pros and amateur fighters working out in every large and small city back then. South Boston, Lowell, Brockton, Lynn, Attleboro, Worcester, New Bedford, Fall River, Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Providence, Manchester, NH, etc., etc. Boxing is more of a foreign sport today than it was 40+ years ago. In the US, boxing was Boxing and MMA today all rolled into one - Plus some.
Even then, Norman Stone was a colorful character in a world of colorful characters. Street fighting legend, decorated Vietnam War veteran, uncontrollable temper, loved his gym and took care of his fighters.
Was he the the jerk they made him out to be on HBO? Meh. Ya, sure. Whateva!

Jack O'Halloran trained with Bill Ebel at the New Garden Gym? The actor? He was a decent journeyman heavyweight who then had a pretty successful acting career. Good stuff.

[Willow The Wisp]

Jack O'Halloran trained with Bill Ebel at the New Garden Gym? The actor? He was a decent journeyman heavyweight who then had a pretty successful acting career. Good stuff.

Giant Jack had a nice war with George Foreman (on YouTube I'm pretty sure) and he was great in "Farewell my Lovely". Memorable in Superman too. Jack had a spotty record but he could fight.

[Willie Pep 229]

Giant Jack had a nice war with George Foreman (on YouTube I'm pretty sure) and he was great in "Farewell my Lovely". Memorable in Superman too. Jack had a spotty record but he could fight.

Moose Malloy?

That guy could actually act. A rare exception for prize fighters in the movies.

Never watch Archie Moore in Huckleberry Finn. Will make you cringe.

[Anthony342]

Giant Jack had a nice war with George Foreman (on YouTube I'm pretty sure) and he was great in "Farewell my Lovely". Memorable in Superman too. Jack had a spotty record but he could fight.

Loved him in Superman 2. Heard he was a memorable villain in Hero and the Terror.