The Goldberg Effect.

[The Old LefHook]

Some younger fans (and probably some older ones, too) may not know what this term actually designates in boxing. I guarantee it is a reality, and I have seen it many times. It works about like this:

A big underdog does much better than everyone expected (including even his mother). People are so impressed that now everyone is proclaiming the underdog the easy winner. In fact, the fight was probably extremely close, but fans en masse are convinced the underdog won easily, even after multiple viewings. First impressions count. The Goldberg Effect.

I know lots of examples. Do you know any? What was the original example?

[Willie Pep 229]

W Bush vs. Al Gore (I)

When W made it all the way through the first debate without figuring out how to cut himself with the microphone, or simplely not just falling down during, the world was so impressed with his performance that the media announced he won the debate. The reality of his presentation was, well . . . Meh!

Rube Goldberg?

[them_apples]

Some younger fans (and probably some older ones, too) may not know what this term actually designates in boxing. I guarantee it is a reality, and I have seen it many times. It works about like this:

A big underdog does much better than everyone expected (including even his mother). People are so impressed that now everyone is proclaiming the underdog the easy winner. In fact, the fight was probably extremely close, but fans en masse are convinced the underdog won easily, even after multiple viewings. First impressions count. The Goldberg Effect.

I know lots of examples. Do you know any? What was the original example?

Interesting

Duran v Leonard 1
Ali v Frazier 1

There's tons though for sure

[Willie Pep 229]

Interesting

Duran v Leonard 1
Ali v Frazier 1

There's tons though for sure

I don't agree with Duran-Leonard I - there were many of us who thought it was time for Leonard to be exposed (of course he wasn't) and Duran was the guy to do it. I don't think Duran gained from negative expectations. I expected him to school Leonard; I think he beat him straight up.

I agree Ali was fighting that uphill battle with the judges, but he still lost. Lost it in the 11th and 15th rounds.

[QueensburyRules]

I don't agree with Duran-Leonard I - there were many of us who thought it was time for Leonard to be exposed (of course he wasn't) and Duran was the guy to do it. I don't think Duran gained from negative expectations. I expected him to school Leonard; I think he beat him straight up.

I agree Ali was fighting that uphill battle with the judges, but he still lost. Lost it in the 11th and 15th rounds.

- - Duran/Frazier BTFO Ray/Ali, but Ray fought back harder than did Ali and was never publicly walloped so bad as was Ali in the 15th.

Both rematches were meh as the edge the victors had going into the first fight was gone and Duran in particular did not have enough time or discipline in his training camp to properly prepare.

[The Old LefHook]

People who were not fans yet do not understand that gobs of fans were worried Hagler might actually kill or permanently injure Leonard. When Leonard survived and did fairly well, people were convinced he had whipped Hagler good in what was actually an extremely close fight. The same is true for Barkley/Duran. To do better than generally expected has been the silent reason for many decisions. The Goldberg Effect in action.

[Anthony342]

Okay, so then why is it called The Goldberg Effect? Who is it named after?

[Rockybigblower]

Okay, so then why is it called The Goldberg Effect? Who is it named after?

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[Anthony342]

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And here I thought it was referring to this guy:

[billeau2]

Some younger fans (and probably some older ones, too) may not know what this term actually designates in boxing. I guarantee it is a reality, and I have seen it many times. It works about like this:

A big underdog does much better than everyone expected (including even his mother). People are so impressed that now everyone is proclaiming the underdog the easy winner. In fact, the fight was probably extremely close, but fans en masse are convinced the underdog won easily, even after multiple viewings. First impressions count. The Goldberg Effect.

I know lots of examples. Do you know any? What was the original example?

ohh ohhh! (does his best Arnold Horseshack impression) I got one! I got two!!! The two Hopkins Jermaine Taylor fights... Taylor managed to win some early rounds and they ripped Hopkins off, twice! In both fights Hopkins took Taylor to deep water and drowned him.