McCall vs Lewis (2)

[sonnyboyx2]

this sonnybox character tried to tell me tyson was a better "technical" fighter than lewis lmao

yes Tyson was far better technically than Lewis, Tyson easily beat Frank Bruno to the jab (twice) yet Lewis was given a lesson in jabbing by Bruno, Tyson has the ability to cut off the ring on his opponents where as Lewis just plodded after them with his 2 left feet, Tyson v Holyfield (1) was one of the great fights in Heavyweight history, Tyson showed incredible toughness and absorbed a tremendous amount of punishment before being stopped by the referee in a titanic fight, Holyfield was an old man when he fought Lewis, his skills had eroded yet he was "Robbed" of his titles in their 2nd fight... Tyson was by-far the better all round fighter between him and Lewis, whenever Lewis got hit on the chin like in his fight with Rahman, the referee could have counted for several minutes and Lewis would not have beaten the count.. Lennox Lewis avoided every boxer who could "BOX" throughout his whole career, he never ever wanted anything to do with, Moorer, Byrd, Witherspoon, Hide, Bowe, Sanders, Holmes, Wlad Klitschko because they all have "Boxing Ability"... Lewis only ever fought fighters who had virtually no boxing ability like, Grant, Briggs, Tua, Morrison, Jackson, Butler, Botha, Golota, Mavrovick, Akinwande, .... Lewis was getting completely "out-boxed" by Frank Bruno until he landed his fortunate and very lucky punch.... Mike Tyson is twice the fighter Lewis ever was

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yes Tyson was far better technically than Lewis, Tyson easily beat Frank Bruno to the jab (twice) yet Lewis was given a lesson in jabbing by Bruno, Tyson has the ability to cut off the ring on his opponents where as Lewis just plodded after them with his 2 left feet, Tyson v Holyfield (1) was one of the great fights in Heavyweight history, Tyson showed incredible toughness and absorbed a tremendous amount of punishment before being stopped by the referee in a titanic fight, Holyfield was an old man when he fought Lewis, his skills had eroded yet he was "Robbed" of his titles in their 2nd fight... Tyson was by-far the better all round fighter between him and Lewis, whenever Lewis got hit on the chin like in his fight with Rahman, the referee could have counted for several minutes and Lewis would not have beaten the count.. Lennox Lewis avoided every boxer who could "BOX" throughout his whole career, he never ever wanted anything to do with, Moorer, Byrd, Witherspoon, Hide, Bowe, Sanders, Holmes, Wlad Klitschko because they all have "Boxing Ability"... Lewis only ever fought fighters who had virtually no boxing ability like, Grant, Briggs, Tua, Morrison, Jackson, Butler, Botha, Golota, Mavrovick, Akinwande, .... Lewis was getting completely "out-boxed" by Frank Bruno until he landed his fortunate and very lucky punch.... Mike Tyson is twice the fighter Lewis ever was

eh? it was Bowe that ducked Lewis not the other way around you ****in idiot

and rest of your post i didnt even bother to read

but then again you dont really have any credibility in your posts, because you are just extremeley biased against lewis and have zero boxing knowledge.

[sonnyboyx2]

eh? it was Bowe that ducked Lewis not the other way around you ****in idiot

and rest of your post i didnt even bother to read

but then again you dont really have any credibility in your posts, because you are just extremeley biased against lewis and have zero boxing knowledge.

you read ALL of my post, you just have not got the boxing knowledge to answer it, "The Truth Hurts eh"..

Lewis turned down a career highest payday of £10 million to fight Bowe in 95 ... Lewis also priced himself out of a fight with Bowe in 93 when Bowe threw his WBC belt in the garbage can and went on to fight a rematch with Holyfield and a $30 million payday.... Lewis picked that same belt out of the garbage can and went on to defend it against "ALL TIME GREATS - Phil Jackson, Lionel Butler, Frank Bruno,Tony Tucker before Oliver McCall poleaxed him

[Mersey]

yes Tyson was far better technically than Lewis, Tyson easily beat Frank Bruno to the jab (twice) yet Lewis was given a lesson in jabbing by Bruno, Tyson has the ability to cut off the ring on his opponents where as Lewis just plodded after them with his 2 left feet, Tyson v Holyfield (1) was one of the great fights in Heavyweight history, Tyson showed incredible toughness and absorbed a tremendous amount of punishment before being stopped by the referee in a titanic fight, Holyfield was an old man when he fought Lewis, his skills had eroded yet he was "Robbed" of his titles in their 2nd fight... Tyson was by-far the better all round fighter between him and Lewis, whenever Lewis got hit on the chin like in his fight with Rahman, the referee could have counted for several minutes and Lewis would not have beaten the count.. Lennox Lewis avoided every boxer who could "BOX" throughout his whole career, he never ever wanted anything to do with, Moorer, Byrd, Witherspoon, Hide, Bowe, Sanders, Holmes, Wlad Klitschko because they all have "Boxing Ability"... Lewis only ever fought fighters who had virtually no boxing ability like, Grant, Briggs, Tua, Morrison, Jackson, Butler, Botha, Golota, Mavrovick, Akinwande, .... Lewis was getting completely "out-boxed" by Frank Bruno until he landed his fortunate and very lucky punch.... Mike Tyson is twice the fighter Lewis ever was

Robbed in he Holyfield fight? What were you watching?!

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you read ALL of my post, you just have not got the boxing knowledge to answer it, "The Truth Hurts eh"..

Lewis turned down a career highest payday of £10 million to fight Bowe in 95 ... Lewis also priced himself out of a fight with Lewis in 93 when Bowe threw his WBC belt in the garbage can and went on to fight a rematch with Holyfield and a $30 million payday.... Lewis picked that same belt out of the garbage can and went on to defend it against "ALL TIME GREATS - Phil Jackson, Lionel Butler, Frank Bruno,Tony Tucker before Oliver McCall poleaxed him

lmfao man you try to hard to discredit Lewis career.

who did mike tyson beat? an old coming of a 3 year lay off Holmes? a light heavy spinks? tucker? bruno? Lennox Lewis resume is better than Tysons

vitali klitschkos best win is Samuel Peter who came in to the fight severley out of shape. yep lennox lewis resume also beats vitalis

and wlads whos best wins is sultan ibragimov who was ruined by jeff mayweather, he was way better before he got jeff mayweather as a trainer. and ruslan chagaev who suffered from hepatitis or something, lennox resume beats wlads to.

you see now how easy it is to discredit differnet fighters resume? huh? you can do it to anybody.

hey why not also say foreman was drugged against ali and joe frazier was past prime for their third fight. huh.

your just an idiot hater.

[Dynamite Kid]

This fight was a total farce... with the Lewis camp knowing McCall was on a "Bender" with drugs and getting him to accept this fight before he was `shipped-off`to the drug rehab... McCall done not a single day of training for this fight and was only 3 days out of the rehab before fight night, McCall was not fit mentally nor physically to fight.. yet the Lewis camp claimed their man avenged his defeat in 92.. if a fit and ready McCall had been in the ring this night, again he would have taken care of Lennox Lewis in a matter of a few rounds...this counts as a TKO loss on McCall`s record yet everyone knows this fight was a farce

You are one rabid Lenny hater sonnyboyx, how can anyone take anything you say on this matter seriously when you make it so clear and obvious that you have an agenda against the man.

This the same McCall that lost to Douglas, Bruno and arguably would of lost to an aged Larry Holmes if Holmes had not tired so dramatically towards the end. McCall had a sparring partners mentality but he was capable of pulling off the odd shock, was he capable of beating the more polished prime Lewis , when focused ? fcuk no.

[Dynamite Kid]

This fight was a total farce... with the Lewis camp knowing McCall was on a "Bender" with drugs and getting him to accept this fight before he was `shipped-off`to the drug rehab... McCall done not a single day of training for this fight and was only 3 days out of the rehab before fight night, McCall was not fit mentally nor physically to fight.. yet the Lewis camp claimed their man avenged his defeat in 92.. if a fit and ready McCall had been in the ring this night, again he would have taken care of Lennox Lewis in a matter of a few rounds...this counts as a TKO loss on McCall`s record yet everyone knows this fight was a farce

sonnyboyx just out of interest are you from Scotland ?

[GJC]

Lennox Lewis avoided every boxer who could "BOX" throughout his whole career, he never ever wanted anything to do with, Moorer, Byrd, Witherspoon, Hide, Bowe, Sanders, Holmes, Wlad Klitschko because they all have "Boxing Ability"

I am sure there are Lennox Lewis fans who are more qualified to answer this than me but I can’t let that comment stand without replying.

Lewis won the title back from McCall not that long before Moorer lost his title to Holyfield.
You have proof or anything like it that Lewis ducked Moorer. I would imagine the opposite is true but as I don’t know that for a fact I won’t speculate.

Re Byrd when was Lewis meant to fight him? Looking at the timeline of Lewis career 1999 was taken up unifying with Holy. 2000 he fought Grant, Botha and Tua all of whom at that time were far more credible challengers than any you have mentioned. 2001 he was losing and winning against Rahman. 2002 cashing in against Tyson and finishes up in 2003 against Vitali. So Byrd 1998 or earlier? When Byrd was in school? When?

Witherspoon, when he was being frozen out or in the middle of his 6 or 7 fight losing streak or when he was mid to late 40’s?

Herbie Hide is second class and couldn’t draw flies you don’t honestly think Lewis wouldn’t destroy him in 2 rounds do you? Why would Lewis consider fighting him?

Bowe has been covered, if you want to fight someone and you are the champion and hold all the cards at the negotiating table you don’t throw the belt in the bin.

Sanders lost to Rahman, so Rahman fought Lewis. Simple as that.

Holmes was what mid 40’s before Lewis even won the title, that is a real win/win fight for Lewis, you might as well throw Ali’s name in.

Wlad? Even the biggest Wlad fan in the world would not give him a credible chance against Lewis in his Brewster/Sanders days so Lewis fought the best Klitschko brother at that time and beat him then retired.

And that’s that really

[GJC]

sonnyboyx just out of interest are you from Scotland ?

McCall's scottish? What clan?

[Kid McCoy]

I am sure there are Lennox Lewis fans who are more qualified to answer this than me but I can’t let that comment stand without replying.

Lewis won the title back from McCall not that long before Moorer lost his title to Holyfield.
You have proof or anything like it that Lewis ducked Moorer. I would imagine the opposite is true but as I don’t know that for a fact I won’t speculate.

Re Byrd when was Lewis meant to fight him? Looking at the timeline of Lewis career 1999 was taken up unifying with Holy. 2000 he fought Grant, Botha and Tua all of whom at that time were far more credible challengers than any you have mentioned. 2001 he was losing and winning against Rahman. 2002 cashing in against Tyson and finishes up in 2003 against Vitali. So Byrd 1998 or earlier? When Byrd was in school? When?

Witherspoon, when he was being frozen out or in the middle of his 6 or 7 fight losing streak or when he was mid to late 40’s?

Herbie Hide is second class and couldn’t draw flies you don’t honestly think Lewis wouldn’t destroy him in 2 rounds do you? Why would Lewis consider fighting him?

Bowe has been covered, if you want to fight someone and you are the champion and hold all the cards at the negotiating table you don’t throw the belt in the bin.

Sanders lost to Rahman, so Rahman fought Lewis. Simple as that.

Holmes was what mid 40’s before Lewis even won the title, that is a real win/win fight for Lewis, you might as well throw Ali’s name in.

Wlad? Even the biggest Wlad fan in the world would not give him a credible chance against Lewis in his Brewster/Sanders days so Lewis fought the best Klitschko brother at that time and beat him then retired.

And that’s that really

After beating Holyfield, Moorer was asked if he would unify against Lewis. His response was along the lines of "I'll fight who I want to fight, not who you want me to fight." It turned out the guy he wanted to fight was a 45-year-old who hadn't boxed in a year. The rest is history.

After Bowe-Holyfield I and Lewis-Ruddock, Bowe vs Lewis was the biggest heavyweight fight to be made. Bowe chose to ditch his belt and instead defended against two journeymen. Only Sonnyboy thinks that equates to Lewis ducking Bowe.

Witherspoon did call out Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield after beating Gonzalez, but he was a remnant of the 80s and a subsequent string of losses killed any chance he may have had of meeting them.

Accusing Lewis of ducking Hide is a joke. Hide was beating up fringe contenders in small venues while Lewis was unifying the title with Holyfield. If Lewis had fought Hide, Herbie would now be written off as a "glass-jawed cruiser".

No matter who a boxer fights, people like Sonnyboy will always muster up a few he didn't face. Maybe it's only me, but I can't see Lewis cowering under the kitchen table at the prospect of fighting Chris Byrd or a 94-year-old Larry Holmes. Lewis fought everyone he had to fight who would fight him, and that's all anyone can do.