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  • #91
    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
    Hide has always been mediocre, i always knew he was a KO waiting to happen just like Hatton was.. But that does not take away the fact that Lennox Lewis wanted nothing to do with the then undefeated Hide and chose to fight Butler & Fortune instead

    as for undefeated fighters Peter McNeally was undefeated when he fought Tyson but everyone knew he was a joke, and i knew that Michael Grant posed zero threat to Lennox Lewis but John Ruiz & Chris Byrd posed a huge threat to Lewis and Lewis knew that
    OK for the 3rd a hopefully final time:

    1) At the time you bought your ticket for the Lewis Ruddock fight did you think that Ruddock was shot and had no chance?

    2) Would you say it is a silly comment to say that these fighters with unbeaten records were on the slide when Lewis fought them? I'm not asking you your opinion on them as fighters just the on the slide part.

    I do not agree with you about your analysis of Lewis record in the slightest.
    In the interests of balance I do however agree that whilst Bruno is/was loved in England Lewis is simply respected, reviled is far too strong a word.
    I do think he was an Englishman of convenience I will agree with you there.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Сливк. View Post
      nope, your claims are just to ridiclous to be able to argue with you, those two things was the only stuff even half sane from you. How do you expect anyone to argue with you about Lennox Lewis ducking Trevor Berbick? With a guy like you its impossible, not because you have any facts or backing for your statements but because you are a diluded hater that makes stuff up. Honestly though I think you are just trolling especcially after seeing that highlighted sentence. You think Lennox Lewis ducked Herbie Hide and was no better than Frank Bruno and say these are facts among other things, sorry but I just can't take you seriously anymore. Nobody here agrees with you does that not tell you that everything you have said is 100% wrong. You are the only one beleiving all that bull**** and nobody else seem to agree with you or back up your claims that Lewis ducked all those fighters and was no better than Bruno. Basicly you are just making **** up with no proof or backing from anyone else.

      Fcuking!! spot


      Irony is he claims Lewis ducked this fight that fighter but if Lewis had not fought big punchers like Morrison and the so called fattest man (Tua) Yadda Yadda Yadda he would be saying he ducked them because they were punchers etc etc.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Сливк. View Post
        nope, your claims are just to ridiclous to be able to argue with you, those two things was the only stuff even half sane from you. How do you expect anyone to argue with you about Lennox Lewis ducking Trevor Berbick? With a guy like you its impossible, not because you have any facts or backing for your statements but because you are a diluded hater that makes stuff up. Honestly though I think you are just trolling especcially after seeing that highlighted sentence. You think Lennox Lewis ducked Herbie Hide and was no better than Frank Bruno and say these are facts among other things, sorry but I just can't take you seriously anymore. Nobody here agrees with you does that not tell you that everything you have said is 100% wrong. You are the only one beleiving all that bull**** and nobody else seem to agree with you or back up your claims that Lewis ducked all those fighters and was no better than Bruno. Basicly you are just making **** up with no proof or backing from anyone else.
        how is it ****... prove me wrong instead of saying nobody believes me, prove to me that Lewis was not stripped of the belt for refusing to fight John Ruiz, prove to me that Lewis did not turn down $35 million to fight Roy Jones, prove to me that Lewis did not turn down $10 million for fighting Rid**** Bowe in 95, prove to me that Lewis did not accept $3 million step-a-side money in 96 from Tyson when he could have had a career highest payday and a guaranteed title shot, prove to me that Lewis did not run from a $30 million payday in a rematch with Vitali
        Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 08-25-2009, 09:19 AM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by GJC View Post
          OK for the 3rd a hopefully final time:

          1) At the time you bought your ticket for the Lewis Ruddock fight did you think that Ruddock was shot and had no chance?

          2) Would you say it is a silly comment to say that these fighters with unbeaten records were on the slide when Lewis fought them? I'm not asking you your opinion on them as fighters just the on the slide part.

          I do not agree with you about your analysis of Lewis record in the slightest.
          In the interests of balance I do however agree that whilst Bruno is/was loved in England Lewis is simply respected, reviled is far too strong a word.
          I do think he was an Englishman of convenience I will agree with you there.
          bruno was/is loved because of his personality. that laugh has a lot to do with it.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
            how is it ****... prove me wrong instead of saying nobody believes me, prove to me that Lewis was not stripped of the belt for refusing to fight John Ruiz, prove to me that Lewis did not turn down $35 million to fight Roy Jones, prove to me that Lewis did not turn down $10 million for fighting Rid**** Bowe in 95, prove to me that Lewis did not accept $3 million step-a-side money in 96 from Tyson when he could have had a career highest payday and a guaranteed title shot, prove to me that Lewis did not rub from a $30 million payday in a rematch with Vitali
            If you make a statement it is for you to prove that statement is true not for someone to disprove it surely?
            Otherwise I could say there are herds of buffalo on Saturn and defy you to disprove it.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
              how is it ****... prove me wrong instead of saying nobody believes me, prove to me that Lewis was not stripped of the belt for refusing to fight John Ruiz, prove to me that Lewis did not turn down $35 million to fight Roy Jones, prove to me that Lewis did not turn down $10 million for fighting Rid**** Bowe in 95, prove to me that Lewis did not accept $3 million step-a-side money in 96 from Tyson when he could have had a career highest payday and a guaranteed title shot, prove to me that Lewis did not rub from a $30 million payday in a rematch with Vitali
              Rid**** Bowe rather put his belt in the thrashcan than fight Lewis, Bowe ducked Lewis not the other way around.

              Mike Tyson gave Lennox Lewis 3$ million NOT to fight him. Basicly Lewis got the option of getting 3$ million for nothing or fighting Tyson for a few million more, and he choosed the smart option. The very fact that Tyson offered Lewis 3$ million to step aside prooves that Tyson did not want to fight Lewis at that time, why else would he offer Lewis step aside money?

              Lennox Lewis was past prime and 37 years old yet he still beat Vitali Klitschko, look at the state of Vitalis face after the fight that was from an old past prime Lewis. He would have been 38 years old and even more past prime if he would have done the rematch with Klitschko(a man he already beat).
              Last edited by Сливк.; 08-25-2009, 09:23 AM.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by GJC View Post
                If you make a statement it is for you to prove that statement is true not for someone to disprove it surely?
                Otherwise I could say there are herds of buffalo on Saturn and defy you to disprove it.

                Exactly, thats why I try to tell him how hard it would be to try and proove Lennox Lewis did not duck Trevor Berbick for example. Because he did not, and sonnyboysx2 has NO FACT what so ever to try and back up his own claim that Lewis ducked Berbick.
                Last edited by Сливк.; 08-25-2009, 09:29 AM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                  Fcuking!! spot


                  Irony is he claims Lewis ducked this fight that fighter but if Lewis had not fought big punchers like Morrison and the so called fattest man (Tua) Yadda Yadda Yadda he would be saying he ducked them because they were punchers etc etc.
                  Morrison was an actor in movies, his boxing career was over after Michael Bentt destroyed him in the opening round, yet your claiming he was a world beater the night Lewis fought him..Morrison posed zero threat

                  David Tua like it or not was the fattest man to ever fight for the title, he was even fatter than Two-Ton Tony Galento

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                    Morrison was an actor in movies, his boxing career was over after Michael Bentt destroyed him in the opening round, yet your claiming he was a world beater the night Lewis fought him..Morrison posed zero threat

                    David Tua like it or not was the fattest man to ever fight for the title, he was even fatter than Two-Ton Tony Galento
                    Who cares, you would still of called Lewis out for ducking them if he had not fought them.

                    The reason ? you hate Lewis and will look for anyway to discredit him no matter how silly it is.

                    Spinks was a LHW who beat a 36 year old past prime Holmes who had close shaves with Carl Williams, Witherspoon.

                    Mike got hammered by Holyfield when Holyfield was 34 and had been in tough fights with Dokes, Stewart, Cooper, Qawi, De Leon, Mercer, Bowe 1,2,3 and a difficult fight with Moorer

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                    • Originally posted by GJC View Post
                      If you make a statement it is for you to prove that statement is true not for someone to disprove it surely?
                      Otherwise I could say there are herds of buffalo on Saturn and defy you to disprove it.
                      i have made claims and i stand by them, if someone does not agree with my claim then they are free to prove me wrong, its no good just saying "i dont believe you mate" and calling me an idiot, if you think i am an idiot the prove me to be an idiot, prove what i say is wrong..

                      The bottom line is, "The truth hurts" and you are hurt by my claims, yet you know you cannot prove me wrong because you also know that it is the truth that i have said.
                      so you are trying to take little `tit-bits` out of what i say and ridiculing me, but you know that The career of Lennox Lewis will now forever be tainted in your mind because i have taken the time to explain it in a correct way that you never seen before, You now know that Lewis was not this mythical fighting machine that you perceived him to once be, but that he was an oppotunist fighter who avoided every fighter who was at the top of their game
                      Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 08-25-2009, 09:41 AM.

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