Joe Frazier vs Joe Louis

[them_apples]

yup he is chewing me up yet no one made midcard fighting like they did in Louis time in 70s-90s coincidence I wonder if he was so called in the ring did he use the exact tech they used in the Louis era oh he won’t tell you that will he he will tell you if he really was in the ring he learned way more advanced tech

shut up you crazy idiot exposing yourself you and you're a crazy cult member jab

Did you see the new footage of Louis I posted, the film has been improved. Have a look. The post is Louis vs simon.

[Ascended]

Did you see the new footage of Louis I posted, the film has been improved. Have a look. The post is Louis vs simon.

no match can be altered to show more advanced angles/tech/fluid/smarts/timing and that's all I care about full or semi matches not highlights

[them_apples]

no match can be altered to show more advanced angles/tech/fluid/smarts/timing and that's all I care about full or semi matches not highlights

What if we dropped the framerate, turned it black and white and were forced to watch it from a distance.

[Ascended]

What if we dropped the framerate, turned it black and white, and were forced to watch it from a distance?

Still wouldn't change anything in the video it's just a video in a lower fps and watching it at a distance how exactly would that change what's recorded in the video? it would need to be recorded from scratch to show a difference in what's on video

Early matches in the 70s are in bw and way more advanced in the areas I named with none of the obsolete tech/flaws from the Louis era

[Willie Pep 229]

heâs a black guy btw, not white.

Please give me a link to his YouTube. I got to see this guy, black or white.

I am not yet convinced he isn't a third rate AI program trying to work out the bugs.

Only a machine can be this ***** redundant. A normal human being would have burnt out by now.

[Ascended]

What if we dropped the framerate, turned it black and white and were forced to watch it from a distance.

This is colored. Some of the speed was also fixed. Joe fought these guys. These guys also had all the same obsolete flaws or tech I named as the Joe match. Or are you going to act like they exist in this match,

or because it's not Louis who acts bias and says I agree with all the things you said,

Well, I don't want any fake agreement. What I said exists because I see it and have seen multiple of these guys match in this era. It's not an interpretation or bias; it's exactly as I described in this video and has nothing to do with me being in the ring.

I see easily how these guys are full of novice-like mistakes a way more advanced person in the 70s-90s would take advantage of.

And me saying this era is trash means compared I have said this multiple times, it doesn't mean what you guys keep trying to make me say what It means which is trash in general

No such era can be trash If it's not compared to anything

[JAB5239]

This is colored. Some of the speed was also fixed. Joe fought these guys. These guys also had all the same obsolete flaws or tech I named as the Joe match. Or are you going to act like they exist in this match,

or because it's not Louis who acts bias and says I agree with all the things you said,

Well, I don't want any fake agreement. What I said exists because I see it and have seen multiple of these guys match in this era. It's not an interpretation or bias; it's exactly as I described in this video and has nothing to do with me being in the ring.

I see easily how these guys are full of novice-like mistakes any more advanced person in the 70s-90s would take advantage of.

And me saying this era is trash means compared I have said this multiple times, it doesn't mean what you guys keep trying to make me say what It means which is trash in general

No such era can be trash If it's not compared to anything

The same flaws like this?

https://********/mCXTIWRcdk8?si=0YlR7zr7-ymnJvmU

Or this?

https://********/bQQbPD-M3jc?si=I0QHPIZmbSWKhU-z

The list goes on and on. I could literally find thousands of examples if you were worth the time. You're not though.

[Ascended]

The same flaws like this?

https://********/mCXTIWRcdk8?si=0YlR7zr7-ymnJvmU

Or this?

https://********/bQQbPD-M3jc?si=I0QHPIZmbSWKhU-z

The list goes on and on. I could literally find thousands of examples if you were worth the time. You're not though.

No, you can't slow ****** person,Those are flaws and tech of the era they fought in, not these exact flaws and tech. I said multiple times that no one made midcards in the 70s-90s from the 30s-50s


yet mutiple guys made pro in 30s-50s using these obsolete tech/flaws why is that oh cause boxing was way less advanced

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

Oh and agian i mean WHOLE ERA NOT JUST JOE SLOW LIAR

[Dr. Z]

Still wouldn't change anything in the video it's just a video in a lower fps and watching it at a distance how exactly would that change what's recorded in the video? it would need to be recorded from scratch to show a difference in what's on video

Early matches in the 70s are in bw and way more advanced in the areas I named with none of the obsolete tech/flaws from the Louis era

Yes , but things such as weight, power, and punch resistance are translatable to any era. Louis style, his very low guard, limited head and footwork and stick your face forward mean he would be at odds vs. modern skilled big men that feature greater power and more reach than his typical opponents.

If anything the 4-6 ounce gloves Louis used augmented his power. Modern heavy weights use 12 ounce gloves. There is more padding to them.

Still Louis does have fast hands, and a good offense when his feet are set. That much is clear.

*** If you take his best opponents fought in Schemling, Walcott, Conn, and Charles and Marcinao and Louis is a loser on the given score cards in its totality. Big time. You can't make things up and EVEN the best Joe Louis fans admit that I am right ( IBRO guys, and other historians ) say I'm right. They are not regular posters on this forum by the way. These were the best men Louis fought.


His flaws are on display vs. his tier two opposition. See the Braddock fight, the Farr fight, the B Bear fight, the Galento fight and the Godoy fight. ***


ANY fan here may disagree with the above *** Go ahead and school will be in session.

[Ascended]

Yes , but things such as weight, power, and punch resistance are translatable to any era. Louis style, his very low guard, limited head and footwork and stick your face forward mean he would be at odds vs. modern skilled big men that feature greater power and more reach than his typical opponents.

If anything the 4-6 ounce gloves Louis used augmented his power. Modern heavy weights use 12 ounce gloves. There is more padding to them.

Still Louis does have fast hands, and a good offense when his feet are set. That much is clear.

*** If you take his best opponents fought in Schemling, Walcott, Conn, and Charles and Marcinao and Louis is a loser on the given score cards in its totality. Big time. You can't make things up and EVEN the best Joe Louis fans admit that I am right ( IBRO guys, and other historians ) say I'm right. They are not regular posters on this forum by the way. These were the best men Louis fought.


His flaws are on display vs. his tier two opposition. See the Braddock fight, the Farr fight, the B Bear fight, the Galento fight and the Godoy fight. ***


ANY fan here may disagree with the above *** Go ahead and school will be in session.

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

Do you not notice all these things