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  • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    Looked at Evangelista go!! This was a very tough guy, but doesn't look so skilled on film. Imagine hime in black and white, at a slower film speed from a distance?

    https://********/hRXyTJdFAqw?si=efJcQ1vJcu53sHeA
    Dude just imagine how bad he would look if they swapped cameras

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    • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

      Dude just imagine how bad he would look if they swapped cameras
      its 2 fighters not 1, I never seen a cam that can manipulate movements not even special effects can do that you're very sane aren't you

      so you've seen cams that can add/decrease angles/tech/fluid/timing/defense? Where can I find these cams to see how they work you obviously seen them you keep talking about them

      So the matches on video in 60s used those special cameras and that's why in every area I named they were way more advanced then the whole 30-40s it had nothing to do with them learning more and fixing stuff did it?, the cameras transformed their movements? Interesting
      Last edited by Ascended; 04-07-2024, 07:12 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

        its 2 fighters not 1, I never seen a cam that can manipulate movements not even special effects can do that you're very sane aren't you

        so you've seen cams that can add/decrease angles/tech/fluid/timing/defense? Where can I find these cams to see how they work you obviously seen them you keep talking about them

        So the matches on video in 60s used those special cameras and that's why in every area I named they were way more advanced then the whole 30-40s it had nothing to do with them learning more and fixing stuff did it?, the cameras transformed their movements? Interesting
        Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรƒยƒร‚ยขรƒย‚ร‚ย€รƒย‚ร‚ย™t see all the movements.

        do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรƒยƒร‚ยขรƒย‚ร‚ย€รƒย‚ร‚ย™t notice.

        when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรƒยƒร‚ยขรƒย‚ร‚ย€รƒย‚ร‚ย™t see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

        if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโ€™t pick up fast movements properly.

        as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

        you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
        Last edited by them_apples; 04-07-2024, 10:37 AM.

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        • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

          Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

          do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

          when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

          if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

          as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

          you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
          He doesn't have the brain capacity nor logic to understand any of this or why he's an idiot.
          them_apples them_apples likes this.

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          • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

            Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

            do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

            when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

            if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

            as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

            you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
            So this here is fixed for you some of the speed was fixed and they upgraded it to 60 i still
            See the obsolete flaws and tech that didn't exist in the average 70s-90s fighter

            They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.​ And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent​​​


            So there's one video of proof of you're idiotic odd comment of somehow video in the reverse way of what you said still is a lie

            Why do i still see those flaws and tech problems you crazy idiot oh that's right cause its the only reason they knew how to fight you idiot exposed
             
            Last edited by Ascended; 04-07-2024, 11:06 AM.

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            • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

              Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

              do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

              when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

              if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

              as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

              you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
              One of Louis's best matches again was colored fixed some of the missed up frames with a higher fps It has been said also being in black and white stops people from seeing everything

              yet the speed is fixed and colored still doesn't stop me from Seeing the same obsolete flaws And tech from, coincidence?


              Both fighters as the primo match I showed right above this exposed agian crazy liar
               
              Last edited by Ascended; 04-07-2024, 11:10 AM.

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              • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

                do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

                when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

                if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

                as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

                you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
                Another match colored/fixed some
                Timing of the Speed with higher fps yet I still see the same obsolete flaws And tech as the other 2 matches, coincidence? Or is it those tech and flaws As I said exist cause it's the only way they knew How to fight?

                as I said video can't manipulate movements to show more advanced

                angles/timing/tech/fluid/defense, the only thing higher fps can add is smooth movements,it doesn't add those things i said it would need to be
                re-recorded for a person to perform the movements different you exposed yourself i just responded
                You slow crazy idiot

                Oh, and if you were right, how is it? It's multiple people in comments on highlight videos or matches saying how great Louis, Rock, and others are.
                In this era,

                you yourself have multiple comments bragging. On these guys on this site, how is it possible you can do that if the videos are so called so bad, their i guess skipping or pausing bad or parts are just missing or have bad static, which if all these problems existed, you would be right since no one would be able to make them out or judge them,see how it doesn't make any sense saying what you said slow idiot?
                so you're full of crap and you know you are


                You can for a fact see every movement in the videos I posted just like I can you can see them you see them moving you see them punching ducking dodging flaws and everything you see the ref move you see counters

                you're exposed bad
                 
                Last edited by Ascended; 04-07-2024, 02:06 PM.

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                • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                  Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

                  do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

                  when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

                  if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

                  as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

                  you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
                  fps is only 25 yet i can see these guys were way more advanced in angles/fluid/timing/defense/tech and none of those obsolete tech and its in black in white remember you and youre crazy cult member buddy jab said color would make a difference

                   
                  Last edited by Ascended; 04-07-2024, 04:01 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                    Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

                    do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

                    when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

                    if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

                    as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

                    you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
                    upgraded to 60 as i said just added them smoother way more advanced then the whole louis era these guys were in 70s
                     

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                    • Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                      Yes, with a LOWER frame rate you canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see all the movements.

                      do you know how videos are taken? They rapidly take photos and put them together in sequence that your eye canรยรยขรยรยรยรยt notice.

                      when you have 18 fps to describe a movement, you really are only gonna see where they are in the ring and when they punch. You wonรยรยขรยรยรยรยt see the feints, small slips and set ups, all the subtle things that made these guys good. At 60 fps you can see everything. Thats why when the AI upscales and creates frames it deems realistic - the footage looks more believable and they no longer look stiff.

                      if you want an example, just try shadow boxing on a webcam. It canโt pick up fast movements properly.

                      as Jab said, if you took a newer boxer and filmed them at 18 fps they would look garbage.

                      you should be the last guy on this forum calling anyone ******. You are by far the simplest man on this forum and most of us are just entertaining ourselves with you.
                      same match but with the original fps only in 30. Just like I told you and posted the other match fps, as I said, fps changing cant alter movements. These guys fight the same exact way as the 60 fps version, but it's just smoother. The 60 version doesn't add more angles, tech, timing, defense, smarts, or fluid/same flaws it doesn't add anything but smoother movements.

                      nothing is missing in these guys movements that doesn't exist in the 60 version same as the louis match in 60 doesn't add anything that doesn't exist in the og fps
                      EXPOSED BAD

                      so never say that odd ****** comment again to me how changing fps can somehow alter movements when i proved it cant alter anything at all or can adding color alter anything
                       
                      Last edited by Ascended; 04-07-2024, 02:32 PM.

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