Does anyone on here think Muhhamad Ali is overrated?

[Obama]

Depends who's rating him. People who say Ali was the GOAT are definitely over rating him. Ali calling himself the greatest played a big part in this brain washing. The people who rate Joe Frazier a top 5 Heavyweight and Ken Norton a top 15 Heavyweight are the biggest Ali huggers alive. It's as if to them the man couldn't get his ass beat unless the other guy was also one of the very greatest.

Ali doesn't even make my top 10 p4p, although I do rate him #2 Heavyweight.

As for Ali being a great man outside the ring, I'd like to know compared to who? Compared to a nobody, sure. Compared to Malcolm X? He couldn't hold Malcolm's jockstrap. And when he turned his back on Malcolm can not be over looked. Not saying he did it because he was a bad person, but it does imply he wasn't a very bright one. He was easily influenced and manipulated. The speeches he made on race and America, which apparently inspired millions, most likely aren't even his.

[Caesar]

he is surely not overrated, he changed the world with his critics against the war for example, he was also a great box champion

[boxingbuff]

Depends who's rating him. People who say Ali was the GOAT are definitely over rating him. Ali calling himself the greatest played a big part in this brain washing. The people who rate Joe Frazier a top 5 Heavyweight and Ken Norton a top 15 Heavyweight are the biggest Ali huggers alive. It's as if to them the man couldn't get his ass beat unless the other guy was also one of the very greatest.

Ali doesn't even make my top 10 p4p, although I do rate him #2 Heavyweight.

As for Ali being a great man outside the ring, I'd like to know compared to who? Compared to a nobody, sure. Compared to Malcolm X? He couldn't hold Malcolm's jockstrap. And when he turned his back on Malcolm can not be over looked. Not saying he did it because he was a bad person, but it does imply he wasn't a very bright one. He was easily influenced and manipulated. The speeches he made on race and America, which apparently inspired millions, most likely aren't even his.

I remember a time when Ali was going on and on that he was the GOAT,and the reporter asked what about SRR? Ali said: " I never said I was the greatest pfp,I said I was the greatest fighter of all-times"

So even you would have to say Ali was the 2nd greastest fighter of all-times!

[goblin]

Is Ali overated? well i'll answer your question with a question of my own:

3 and a half years of NO prime years
Norton (3 times)
Lyle
Foreman (undefeated)
Frazier (3 times)
Patterson (2 times)
Shavers (one of the hardest punchers of all time)
Young
Foster
Quarry (2 times)
George Chuvalo (2 times)
Bonavena
Liston (2 times)
Cooper ( 2 times)
Wepner
Williams
Terrell
Spinks x2

do u think he's overated now?

[princemanspoper]

I remember a time when Ali was going on and on that he was the GOAT,and the reporter asked what about SRR? Ali said: " I never said I was the greatest pfp,I said I was the greatest fighter of all-times"

Ali was being modest just like most others who claim Ray Robinson was the greatest.Ray Robinson ducked and avoided far too many legitimate opponents to be as ranked as highly as he is.

do u think he's overated now?

You people still don't understand the concept of the term "overrated".I thought ***** was the biggest dunce on this board

I'm now reconsidering my original accusations

[princemanspoper]

double post

[GJC]

Absolutely not. But I do think that bumbeater Joe Louis is highly overrated.

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[GJC]

He would of lost to Foreman the second time.

Well he was meant to lose to him the 1st time too so you can't really say that with any certainty

[NakiFan]

I consider ALI to be overrated.

Dont get me wrong he is a great and definatley a top 5 h/w atg, but the G.O.A.T no way.

Ali has been elivated to god-like status by the public and i guess its good for boxing.

But not to forget he almost got iced by light heavyweight journeman Henry Cooper

He also almost got took the distance by Chuck Bloody Wepner!

Still on his day he was awesome but no doubt he had a few off days.

Also the general public overrate his power a LOT

[RightCross94]

I consider ALI to be overrated.

Dont get me wrong he is a great and definatley a top 5 h/w atg, but the G.O.A.T no way.

Ali has been elivated to god-like status by the public and i guess its good for boxing.

But not to forget he almost got iced by light heavyweight journeman Henry Cooper

He also almost got took the distance by Chuck Bloody Wepner!

Still on his day he was awesome but no doubt he had a few off days.

Also the general public overrate his power a LOT

Ali was 21 years old, and Cooper was not a journeyman!!!! he was european champ and british champ at the time he fought ali and quite a good fighter

quite far past his prime, and he stopped wepner

Too much is made of Ali getting hurt by cooper, cooper was more experienced and a decent fighter, plus ali came back and stopped him!!!!



almost getting getting iced at 21 years of age like ali did is much better than getting knocked the **** out 2 times in your prime, once by a crackhead!!!!