Does anyone on here think Muhhamad Ali is overrated?

[sonnyboyx2]

I don't want to say he's actually overrated because to me he's still the #1 or #2 heavy weight of all time, But, his style was very friendly to boxing Afficianados.

Self proclaimed (deserved and otherwise) like outside fighters who circle and move away stick and move. The view is these fighters are the skilled ones where as in fighters or power fighters are just maulers.

The honest truth is all 3 styles are basically just maximizing the fighter's physical talents and minimizing their lackings.

if you think he is No1 or No2 All time, ... who is your No1, No2?

[MANGLER]

Not at all. Dude was the man in his day.

[RightCross94]

Amen! And for the record it was a good stoppage on Futch's part: Frazier was a blind fighter at that point and had been sponging punches the prior three rounds. Trainer's are paid to take care of their fighter's welfare, whether the fighter wants to continue or not. The trainer has to be the cool head of reason that overrules the fighter's hot heart. Futch did what he should have done.

Poet

absolutely a good stoppage on futch's part, Joe was taking a vicious beating and as you mentioned was blind at that point. But as a fighter, i can understand Joe's reaction to the stoppage (never speaking to futch again), i'd probably flip out if my trainer stopped a fight too

[princemanspoper]

It is a myth that Frazier never spoke to Futch again.Honestly are so many of you this naive?

what you always bad mouth him! i've heard you call him a quitter dont act innocent ******!

Oh,Did frazier come out for the 15th round?

[bojangles1987]

I would never say he's overrated. Ali was undisputed king of the toughest era of heavyweights ever. Ali would translate to any era, he wasn't small and his speed and reflexes would carry to any time period. Other heavyweights like Marciano simply couldn't do it because they would be too small but Ali was 6'3 220, and in shape so he could easily transport to the current division and own everyone.

[MikeT86]

if you think he is No1 or No2 All time, ... who is your No1, No2?

I always put Joe Louis up there with Ali. Usually Ali as #1 because he did it in two careers basically, and in the second one had much stiffer competition.
Louis gets up there due to the ridiculousness of his title run, I realize he was boxing the bum of the month club but still the amount of time he dominated the heavyweight division is freakish.

If Ali hadn't come back post Vietnam and beaten guys like Frazier Foreman Norton et al. I would rate him #2 behind Louis, but the fact that he was able to beat these other all time greats is usually why I rate him #1.

So I guess my point is he does manage to be #1 and slightly overrated because I don't feel the gap between him and the other guys is as monstrous as others like to make it seem.

[boxingbuff]

Was Ali overrated?

Well,he was picked as "The Athlete of the Century" by sports Illustrated and the USA Today.He was picked 2nd by the AP,and 4th by ESPN.

He was selected by his acomplishments "In the Ring" just as all the other athletes were selected.

By this I would say he was overrated.But being picked as the #1 Heavyweight Champion by 90% of boxing writers,fans,trainers etc. I would not say he is overrated.

He is also selected in the top 5 pfp by most boxing writers,trainers,fight fans,experts, etc etc

It's amazing he could come back from a 3 1/2 year lay-off and win back the Heavyweight Championship of the World. Beat Joe Frazier 2 out of 3,KO the invincible,unbeatable Big George Forman.

It's also amazing with only 19 pro fights he could easily beat the menacing,invincible,unbeatable Sonny Liston.

And we never saw him during his best years! During his 3 1/2 year lay-off.

So no,he is not overrated.....He is,in his own words The Greatest.

[D-MiZe]

He would of lost to Foreman the second time.

[boxingbuff]

He would of lost to Foreman the second time.

Muhammad Ali KO'd George Forman when he was 7 years past his prime!

So you believe George would have beaten Ali when 8 years past his prime?

Maybe,maybe not.......

Either way,Ali was not overrated was he?

[manok uli]

Was ali considered the greatest or was there a talk about him being one BEFORE he self-proclaimed himself as the greatest?