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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ylem122 View Post
    Nah your only thinking of the size diffrence and saying it shouldnt be possiable but in your heart you know rocky would take everything wlad had and systematically tear him apart.

    I mean come on its not like boxing is mma where the bigger guy allways wins
    Forgive me for being sceptical about Rocky Marciano, all 5'10" and 185lb of him, tearing apart a top notch fighter who is approximately 50lbs heavier, 8in taller and has a 14" reach advantage, especially when he has no history of beating such opposition. His best opponents were all smallish heavies, and they all went life and death with him. There are weight classes in boxing for a reason, and there's a good reason why no one Rocky's size has dominated the heavies since he was in his pomp.

    I won't discount his chances entirely, I just make it very unlikely.

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    • #32
      Yeah they have weight classes cuz the little guys kept beating up the bigger guys

      rocky would be like what i dont even have to duck to avoid his jab

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
        Sonnybox said:

        'all the disadvantages in this fight are with Wlad, he would have to punch down, Rocky would bob-and-weave then punch up which is an advantage, and like said before, Rocky throws 100s of punches .... Rocky KO7'

        Wlad's jab was as effective as ever against Chagaev, who was a much shorter heavyweight.

        Some folk have said Rocky throws over a hundred punches a round!.......Nope, he was busy but even Henry Armstrong struggled to beat 80or 90, and Rocky didn't get anything like that workrate against mobile boxers with good jabs like Walcott and Charles.

        Oh and bobbing, weaving and punching up didn't give Frazier an advantage over Foreman. Only speedsters like Tyson can make real use of this and turn it into an advantage.
        You can also add in the fight against a Shot version of Joe Louis where Louis caused Rocky some trouble.

        You can have the ability to throw 70+ punches around, but it doesn't mean you will be able to.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ylem122 View Post
          Yeah they have weight classes cuz the little guys kept beating up the bigger guys

          rocky would be like what i dont even have to duck to avoid his jab

          WRONG. They made weight-classes so that the little guys would have a place to fight.

          Boxing in Ancient Greece however had only ONE weight Class. Now we have many.

          Nobody prevents the little guys from fighting at HW. The HW crown is The Title to have. The rest have to use "P4P" and show their weight-class.

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          • #35
            All i can picture is the height deferential. I think the victory would go to Klitschko, but Rocky would definitely put up a fight.

            That reach is fcukin ridiculous. Alls Wlad has to do is jab, jab, jab...right...all night. I think Rock has more of a potential to beat Vitali, but Wlad is too fcukin big.

            i don't know if Wlad would K him O, cus after all he's the Rock. But i'm gonna give it to Wladimir, just cus of the reach.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kid McCoy View Post
              Forgive me for being sceptical about Rocky Marciano, all 5'10" and 185lb of him, tearing apart a top notch fighter who is approximately 50lbs heavier, 8in taller and has a 14" reach advantage, especially when he has no history of beating such opposition. His best opponents were all smallish heavies, and they all went life and death with him. There are weight classes in boxing for a reason, and there's a good reason why no one Rocky's size has dominated the heavies since he was in his pomp.

              I won't discount his chances entirely, I just make it very unlikely.
              Good post... Well put!
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              • #37
                rocky vs a bigger slower lastarza

                Joe louis was marciano friend he wants to give the people a good fight and im sure they both wanted a good fight marciano not just gonna try to knock him out. he didnt even really want to do the fight.

                your comparing the white tyson to the rock? what? its not like marciano gonna just stand their and keep letting wlad jab at him

                obiviously wlad would have to stay on the outside marciano's gonna have a much better leverage advantage in close over wlad but im pretty sure that means hes gonna have to keep backing up (shuffle lunge shuffle lunge) untill he hits the ropes where i belive marciano shines hes gonna be throwing punches wlad didnt even know existed as the muscle fibers are being crushed under marciano's fists

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                • #38
                  Good point on the Louis vs Marciano fight Benny. Louis looked so much bigger and yet poor Joe would be completely dwarfed by Wlad.

                  Yes, people forget that Louis didn't box badly that night too, he was nothing like what he was but he won rounds and kept Rocky on the end of his jab. I'd argue that Louis looked better against Rocky than he did against Charles.

                  But for Rocky to KO an old Joe Louis was no real achievement. If anything, the fight highlights how well a peak Louis would do. It would be a tough fight but I'd lean towards Louis.

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                  • #39
                    Ylem said:

                    'your comparing the white tyson to the rock? what? its not like marciano gonna just stand their and keep letting wlad jab at him.'

                    I didn't compare Chagaev to the Rock, I used him as an example of a shorter heavyweight that Wlad had no problem jabbing, Chris Byrd too! This was in response to Sonnybox saying that Wlad wouldn't be able to hit Rocky with his jab.

                    I know Rocky wouldn't just sit and take them but even the little guys he fought dominated him with the jab, watch the Walcott, Charles and Moore fights. Wlad would have little trouble, being much taller, heavier, younger and stronger than these little veterans.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by St Lion View Post
                      This is a very interesting match up. Marciano would be giving away 7 inches in height and around 60 pounds in weight. would wlad just be to big for marciano, who would be a cruiserweight in boxing today. marcainio never fought a heavyweight as big as wlad either

                      or could the rock ko wlad. i think i may edge toward wlad, due to the huge size difference, and the wlad today dosent really get hit much either.

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                      Marciano was the better fighter but Wlad is just too big. I think it's an unfair fight because Marciano would not even be considered a heavyweight by todays standards.

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