What fighter do you think gets to much credit and gets overrated in legacy terms?

[billionaire]

all the old slow white guys like jim jeffries john l sullivan etc....

modern day mike tyson....people always say in his prime he would beat lennox and evander which is just absurd since he got his ass kicked......plus his bob n weave style isnt built for longetivity....

and prince naseem entertaining but his style would not last against top competition....

[dde91]

I say Bernard Hopkins is severly overrated in terms of legacy like he gets credit for Tito and DlH when both were blown up W.W.Also Winky Another blown up J.R M.W and bums ass Tarver wich he still a no body cuz he beat Roy dnt mean **** Jones was on his way down anyways.Pavlik had no expirience still a kid that only had Jermain Taylor under his belt alredy.Hes not legacy type thats all!!!

Bernard Hopkins is probably the greatest in this past decade. He was the first to knock out DLH, and Tito. He was the first to beat Winky in like a decade, and the first to beat Pavlik at 43 years old. 20 TITLE defenses. Only two of those 20 were the WW that you speak of. What about the other 18 MW defenses? does he get credit for beating all top contender?

[warp1432]

Bernard Hopkins is probably the greatest in this past decade. He was the first to knock out DLH, and Tito. He was the first to beat Winky in like a decade, and the first to beat Pavlik at 43 years old. 20 TITLE defenses. Only two of those 20 were the WW that you speak of. What about the other 18 MW defenses? does he get credit for beating all top contender?

Trinidad was a middleweight. KOing Joppy in 5 rounds, when no one else to date has done that even to a shot joppy, makes him a top middleweight. Joppy was a good fighter and top middleweight in the 90s.

Also some of the 18 defenses were weaker like Morrade Hakkar, but they were mandatories. Hopkins overall has a great resume and pretty amazing reign.

The "blown up" stuff is overrated to the max, minus DLH because I agree he didn't fit into the Middleweight frame. Trinidad absolutely did htough.

[dde91]

TO me it is,

Prince Nameed- in his first major fight against a Great fighter, he got whooped.

Joe Calzaghe- Waited 10 years until going agianst great competition. But they were older then him. Had the sorry ass WBO for the whole time, which is a **** belt to be proud to have.

Roy Jones Jr.- he had great skills, but look at the competition he faced. He fought weak competition, and his HW title was whack because Ruiz is probably one of the weakest champions of all time. If he fought Tua or somebody at that time, it would have been Lights Out.

[Verstyle]

all the old slow white guys like jim jeffries john l sullivan etc....

modern day mike tyson....people always say in his prime he would beat lennox and evander which is just absurd since he got his ass kicked......plus his bob n weave style isnt built for longetivity....

and prince naseem entertaining but his style would not last against top competition....

He got his ass kicked out of his prime element. How can you add since he got his ass kicked if that wasn't him in his prime. It makes no sense.

[miamijohn]

Unless you beat the best in the top ten.... and capture all belts, [as worthless as they are] you should not be called best or great until you do this. Not only beat the best and capture all belts...But defend them against the best and hold them. AGAINST THE BEST!!!! This thread can answer its self.

[them_apples]

He got his ass kicked out of his prime element. How can you add since he got his ass kicked if that wasn't him in his prime. It makes no sense.

Tyson is overrated by many but underrated by just as many. It's almost sickening to see boxing historians leave Mike out and put Jack Johnson or even Dempsey on their lists (sry Benny Leonard). It's even more sickening to think they do this because of the way he conducted his life outside of boxing, yet fighters like Monzon get no heat what so-ever for beating up their wives.

Then of course you do have the rampant Tyson nuthugger that would pick him over any HW in history, but with every boxer you have these. Currently it's Rocky and Vitali.

[TheGreatA]

Jack Dempsey & Jack Johnson by ESPN.com & Bert Sugar.

Aaron Pryor by the Ring Magazine.

[StarshipTrooper]

all the old slow white guys like....

The Klitschkos?

Poet

[Terry A]

Jack Johnson and Bob Fitzsimmons.