i reckon there are a couple of fights that if they happened would be able to clear up this area. Firstly Tyson v Bowe in 95 and i would have like to have seen holyfield v Razor Rudduck 91-92. I reckon of these fights would have taken place it would be much easier to answer. But i personally think Tyson in 88 was better than holyfield in 92 (their primes)
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Who was better?Tyson or Holyfield?
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Originally posted by ProrockBoth men were great fighters with impressive undefeated streaks.
Holyfield's undefeated streak 1984-1992:
28-0 (22) overall
10-0 (7) in World title fights
11-0 (7) vs. World Champions
4-0 (1) vs. Hall of Famers fighters (Qawi x2, Foreman, and Holmes)
Tyson's undefeated streak 1984-1990:
37-0 (33) overall
10-0 (8) in World title fights
9-0 (7) vs. World Champions
2-0 (2) vs. Hall of Fame fighters (Holmes and M. Spinks)
Let's see who they beat during these streaks.
Holyfield-
The World champions-
Tyrone Booze W8 (WBO CW champ)
Dwight Qawi x2 W15 and KO4 (WBC LHW and WBA CW champ)
Ossie Ocasio KO11 KO3 (IBF CW champ)
Ricky Parkey KO3 (IBF CW champ)
Carlos DeLeon KO8 (WBC CW champ)
Pinklon Thomas KO7 (WBC HW champ)
Michael Dokes KO10 (WBA HW champ)
James Douglas KO3 (Lineal HW champ)
George Foreman W12 (2x Lineal HW champ)
Larry Holmes (Lineal HW champ)
The World title challengers-
Anthony Davis KO4
Henry Tillman KO7
James Tillis KO5
Bert Cooper KO7
Some of the other guys-
Jesse Shelby KO3
Adilson Rodrigues KO2
Alex Stewart KO8
Tyson-
The World champs-
Alfonso Ratliff KO2 (WBC CW champ)
Trevor Berbick KO2 (WBC HW champ)
James Smith W12 (WBA HW champ)
Pinklon Thomas KO6 (WBC HW champ)
Tony Tucker W12 (IBF HW champ)
Larry Holmes KO4 (Lineal HW champ)
Tony Tubbs KO2 (WBA HW champ)
Michael Spinks KO1 (Lineal LHW and HW champ)
Frank Bruno KO5 (WBC HW champ)
The World title challengers-
Jesse Ferguson KO6
James Tillis W10
Marvis Frazier KO1
Tyrell Biggs KO7
Carl Williams KO1
Some of the other guys-
Reggie Gross KO1
Jose Ribalta KO10
Both records look very good.
Let's see what they did after their first loss.
Holyfield-
10-7-2 (3) overall and 6-5 (2) in World title fights. Two of the losses are by KO. He beat 3 of the 6 men that beat him, he drew with another.
Tyson-
13-5 (11) 2NC overall and 2-4 (2) in World title fights. Four of the losses are by KO. He has no wins over any of the men that beat him.
What's your opinion my friends?
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Prime Tyson vs. Prime Holyfield, Iron Mike would win this. Mike just wasn't the same fighter when he returned to the ring from prison. If they would have fought before he entered prison I belive Mike would have won.
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Agreed. Holyfield has beaten far better opposition than Mike, and stayed at the top for a decade, as opposed to Mike's two brief reigns.
Mike never came back from adversity like Holy did.
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I go for Holyfield. Holyfield benifited from tough fights that Mike was unable to. The only down side of steam-rollering the majority of your opponents is that yopu don't get to learn to be able to cope with adversity. I have always felt that Mike has looked only as good as his opponents have allowed him to and believe that if Mike had fought a guy like Hoylfield in his prime Mike would have unravveled much as he did when both guys were past prime. I'm often amazed how the Tyson fans will complain that their man was past prime when he fought Holy but you know so was Holy. It's all to easy to look unbeatable if the other guy is falling down from punches that frankly at times don't even look to have landed quickly. In a who's the most popular contest Tyson, who was the more able Holyfield.
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Holyfield was better. Faced and beat better competition. Even beat Mike Tyson twice. But Tysons 3 year reign of terror was more memorable than Holyfield's reign.
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