Worst mangerial decisions

[JAB5239]

And?
What difference that make?

I apologize if I offended your delicate senses and you couldn't figure out it was a typo.

(Sniff, sniff) i smell an alt.

[Super Laszlo]

I apologize if I offended your delicate senses and you couldn't figure out it was a typo.

(Sniff, sniff) i smell an alt.

sure kid....

[JAB5239]

sure kid....

Sure kid.....

Do you see what I did there? Meaningless right? Really has nothing to do with nothing. So why even mention it?

[Willie Pep 229]

Louis probably wouldn't have had the titleshot if not for some very beneficial bonus for the champ. At the time noone could have foreseen the greatness and longevity of Louis. So Louis gave a slice of future earnings for a titleshot with a larger check.

As for bad managerial decisions well most seem good initially but turns out in a bad way with the benefit of hindsight.

The Rademacher example is a prime example of a situation looking bad initially as well. Also from Pattersons perspective. I have always been puzzled by the fact that Patterson even wanted to fight him. You can say that Patterson's management also made a bad decision by allowing their fighter to fight that novice, when very worthy challengers was standing in line. Patterson himself lost a lot of credibility fighting Rademacher even being KD'ed in the process. And that was made worse by him being destroyed by Liston although he did slightly better the second time around. 4 sec. better i.e.

I realize this is a very old post - but someone resurrected it . . .

The deal was made by Braddock with Uncle Mike Jacobs for Braddock to screw over Schmeling and give Louis the shot at the title instead.

But it became popular to claim that they took advantage of Louis (for racial reasons) and forced him to give up some of his future purses to Braddock. But this is not true.

The deal was for Braddock to receive 10% of the promoters end (Mike Jacobs) not Louis' percentage.

Louis's purses were based on a % of gate receipts therefore his purses were not diminished by the Braddock-Jacob deal. The money came out of Jacobs' end.

The deal was for ten years, for Louis's defenses only.

Of course Braddock made some money eary on but the war screwed him over and by the time Louis started earning again Jacobs was dead and the deal was dead.

Also you have to factor in the ***ish element, Jacobs and Joe Gould has a second agenda of not letting Hitler/Gerboles get control of the HW championship.

The ***s first tried to form a boycott against the fight but that didn't stop the Braddock-Schmeling contract from being signed. So Jacobs and Gould came up with 'Braddock hurt his hand again' story and then used the poorly written contract to screw Schmelimg out of his shot.

It became too popular to claim they took advantage of Louis becuse of his race making him pay a kickback for his shot at the title. This is not true. Louis, as I am sure you know, did not deserve that shot, Schmeling had earned it with his KO victory over Louis.

[QueensburyRules]

I realize this is a very old post - but someone resurrected it . . .

The deal was made by Braddock with Uncle Mike Jacobs for Braddock to screw over Schmeling and give Louis the shot at the title instead.

But it became popular to claim that they took advantage of Louis (for racial reasons) and forced him to give up some of his future purses to Braddock. But this is not true.

The deal was for Braddock to receive 10% of the promoters end (Mike Jacobs) not Louis' percentage.

Louis's purses were based on a % of gate receipts therefore his purses were not diminished by the Braddock-Jacob deal. The money came out of Jacobs' end.

The deal was for ten years, for Louis's defenses only.

Of course Braddock made some money eary on but the war screwed him over and by the time Louis started earning again Jacobs was dead and the deal was dead.

Also you have to factor in the ***ish element, Jacobs and Joe Gould has a second agenda of not letting Hitler/Gerboles get control of the HW championship.

The ***s first tried to form a boycott against the fight but that didn't stop the Braddock-Schmeling contract from being signed. So Jacobs and Gould came up with 'Braddock hurt his hand again' story and then used the poorly written contract to screw Schmelimg out of his shot.

It became too popular to claim they took advantage of Louis becuse of his race making him pay a kickback for his shot at the title. This is not true. Louis, as I am sure you know, did not deserve that shot, Schmeling had earned it with his KO victory over Louis.

- -Fantastic summary, so there it is.

Yeah, first time I heard it's was Jacobs' 10%, so without being contentious, it sounds about right to me absent any other proof as boxing tends have somewhat legendary tales like Pep not throwing a punch and winning a round that they propagate. And most fans forget just how bad WW2 was for any athletic competition above the HS level.

[Super Laszlo]

Sure kid.....

Do you see what I did there? Meaningless right? Really has nothing to do with nothing. So why even mention it?

i really don't see why it struck a nerve so bad. lol

[Willie Pep 229]

- -Fantastic summary, so there it is.

Yeah, first time I heard it's was Jacobs' 10%, so without being contentious, it sounds about right to me absent any other proof as boxing tends have somewhat legendary tales like Pep not throwing a punch and winning a round that they propagate. And most fans forget just how bad WW2 was for any athletic competition above the HS level.

Uncle Mike wasn't 'The Don King' of fight game yet, but was making his move with Louis who he had exclusive. He promoted all the big pre-championship fights: Baer, Carnera, even Schmeling I, but the HW belt was the brass ring and he had to go through Braddock/Gould to get it, so it comes as no surprise he would pay for it.

Plus most believed that if (when) Schmeling beat Braddock, the **** would hold the title hostage and stage only German based defenses for Schmeling.

There was even early talk (after the Braddock-Schmeling contract was signed but before the fight) that subsequent to Schmeling's victory, they would create U.S.A. HW Championship.

You know the game, control the HW Championship and you can control the game.

If you ever get a chance listen to the Billy Conn's post Louis I fight interview. When asked "What next?, he replies "That's up to Uncle Mike."

I thought of course no one was going to get a shot at Louis without a multi-fight deal with Jacobs first. He was the Don King of his day, or one might say Don King was the 'Uncle Mike Jacobs' of his day.

Currently it's amusing to me how The Gypsy King is roadbocking Hearn. Hearn wants so bad to be the new 'Don King' but everytime he has to deal with Fury breaking his balls, he looks over his shoulder and finds that AJ figured out yet another way to lose. LOL (That must be how Mike Jacobs felt when he watched Louis succumb to Schmeling. Staring at Louis on the canvas and thinking: "How do I fix this, boy this is going to cost me.")

I almost feel bad Eddie Baby, but I don't. It is, to me anyway, the only redeeming thing about having Fury with the belt. He's giving all the CSucking promoters a hard time