Worst mangerial decisions

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He outboxed him and made him cry at the end. Put uit this way, it wasn't a robbery like goldengirls who didn't want to fight the undefeated Vargas.

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[Smokin'J]

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[BattlingNelson]

What in your opinion are some of the worst managerial decions to ever be made in boxing?



Some might say Joe Louis and his management giving up 10% of all his future purses for a shot at Jimmy Braddock.

Louis probably wouldn't have had the titleshot if not for some very beneficial bonus for the champ. At the time noone could have foreseen the greatness and longevity of Louis. So Louis gave a slice of future earnings for a titleshot with a larger check.

As for bad managerial decisions well most seem good initially but turns out in a bad way with the benefit of hindsight.

The Rademacher example is a prime example of a situation looking bad initially as well. Also from Pattersons perspective. I have always been puzzled by the fact that Patterson even wanted to fight him. You can say that Patterson's management also made a bad decision by allowing their fighter to fight that novice, when very worthy challengers was standing in line. Patterson himself lost a lot of credibility fighting Rademacher even being KD'ed in the process. And that was made worse by him being destroyed by Liston although he did slightly better the second time around. 4 sec. better i.e.

[TheGreatA]

The Rademacher example is a prime example of a situation looking bad initially as well. Also from Pattersons perspective. I have always been puzzled by the fact that Patterson even wanted to fight him. You can say that Patterson's management also made a bad decision by allowing their fighter to fight that novice, when very worthy challengers was standing in line. Patterson himself lost a lot of credibility fighting Rademacher even being KD'ed in the process. And that was made worse by him being destroyed by Liston although he did slightly better the second time around. 4 sec. better i.e.

I read an article about it, the money offer was supposedly too good to decline...

Cus D'Amato said he didn't want to give mob-controlled fighters title shots but he probably wanted to protect Patterson (who didn't have the greatest chin) and his title from big punchers.
Valdes, Machen, Williams and Folley were all deserving contenders.

Then again Ingemar Johansson was the undisputed number 1 challenger when Patterson faced him so there may have been some truth to it.
Rumour is though that Patterson's camp didn't think too much of Johansson.

Patterson was destroyed by Johansson but he came back and won.

He came back from the Liston defeats too. You could make a good case that he won those fights against Quarry and Ellis. He dominated Machen and outboxed Chuvalo and Bonavena.

For a 180 lb heavyweight Patterson had some longevity.

[Alexis Vastine]

Patterson was well mamanged. Cus knew his limitations and made excuses at the right time! He even said he knew Patterson wouldn't beat certain men and told him so. heard it in a documnetary once. Cus managed tyson perfectly too and if he didn't die then he would have got past Buster Douglas!!! Messing with the Catskill connection was a big mistake by the tyson camp.

[Mr. Ryan]

Some might say Joe Louis and his management giving up 10% of all his future purses for a shot at Jimmy Braddock.

Opinion, thoughts?

You have to look at the big picture here. By all means, Schmelling was worthier of the title shot and would have iced Braddock. If Schmelling had the title the **** regime could have held it hostage in Germany as long as they desired and there was no guarantee Louis could get a shot. Time was of the essence, Louis was in his prime and World War II was on the horizon.

Certainly Hitler would not stand for a black man knocking a German out in the third reich.

It was a necessary evil. Besides, Braddock didn't break Louis' bank, the US Government and the IRS did. The way America treated Louis is an everlasting black eye on our history.

[QueensburyRules]

You have to look at the big picture here. By all means, Schmelling was worthier of the title shot and would have iced Braddock. If Schmelling had the title the **** regime could have held it hostage in Germany as long as they desired and there was no guarantee Louis could get a shot. Time was of the essence, Louis was in his prime and World War II was on the horizon.

Certainly Hitler would not stand for a black man knocking a German out in the third reich.

It was a necessary evil. Besides, Braddock didn't break Louis' bank, the US Government and the IRS did. The way America treated Louis is an everlasting black eye on our history.

- -Ace knowledge by Mr. Ryan whom I hope is doing well these many years later.

[Super Laszlo]

What in your opinion are some of the worst managerial decions to ever be made in boxing?

Don King and Tyson letting Kevin Rooney go comes to mind.

Some might say Joe Louis and his management giving up 10% of all his future purses for a shot at Jimmy Braddock.

My all time worst managerial decision goes to the managment of Pete Radamacher, though. Its not so bad that they got a shot at the heavyweight championship in Radamachers first fight as a pro. Pete had just won olympic gold and they probably cashed in. What I find really boneheaded is them throwing him in with Zora Folley in his very next fight. Folley was 40-2-2 and a top contender. After the loss to Patterson, Radamacher should have been spoon fed some tomato cans to build his confidence back. Instead he was fed to the wolves. I won't speculate how his career may or may not have turned out had his management gone a different route, but my gut tells me it could have been better.

Opinion, thoughts?

*managerial

[JAB5239]

*managerial

13 years ago.

[Super Laszlo]

13 years ago.

And?
What difference that make?