Ali always said he thought Marciano would have been a harder fight for him than Louis or Dempsey and that, goofing for their fake fight, Marciano's power was awesome.
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Marciano was overrated and not an ATG.
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Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View PostMarciano was overrated. If he fought Liston isntead of being a chicken he would have bean beaten to a pulp. He struggled against slow old men like Walcott and a washed up Charles. I reckon most top heavies from each era would have wiped the floor with him. Do u really think he could stand in there with Big Klitchko, Lewis, Holyfied or even Samuel Peter?LOL. Way too easy to hit. He was lucky that Italians loved boxing at the time, it was number one in sports and he had no competition.
Only idiots who have no fight dvd's (i have 1000+ 500vhs) and haven't seen much would rate 'the rock'. The best of his era were old men, and even then he was getting outboxed by the painfully slow Jersey Joe Walcott (equivalent to a journeyman like glen johnson)just by looking at footage one can see he wouldn't stand a chance aginst a Prime Roy Jones, the old Hopkins or even our Clinton Woods! Never mind any genuine heavyweight. He didn't lose coz he didn't fight anybody. Look at all the best, they lost coz they fought the best. He knew he had to retire early or get ko'd by the up and coming fighters! Smart guy but still rubbish.
I've seen every major boxing match that took place in the past 100 years and every Marciano title fight. Walcott was an old slow man and even then he had to hit the man when he was down because he was being outboxed. Marciano is overrated because he was the white hope in a segragated America where they believed they were evolutionarily superior. Marciano never beat anybody decent in their prime and was lucky he was in a dead era. The truth is he was overrated and would lose to many of todays light heavyweights including Calzaghe Hopkins and maybe even Tarver. People who know boxing know he is not a top ten heavyweight. Don't get upset, it is the truth.
LOL some Marciano advocates believe Joe Louis was not totally over the hill when Marciano fought him!!! He was pulled out of retirment and looked more washed up than the shores of Blackpool. Just because Rocky was crap and made a meal out of him and the other old men he fought doesn't mean they were not washed up. Also he did not fight everyone around at his time and retired early to avoid the likes of Sonny liston, Cleveland Williams etc. Even so, it may not be his fault but still exposed his weaknesses. He struggled with Walcott who was average, slow and ever so OLD. It took a dirty shot and there was never to be a rematch in segregated america that needed their hero so bad. He was so easy to hit it was a joke. Completely outboxed for many rouns. Marciano would lose to David Haye in about 2 rounds.
I think he is not even in the top 20 in the heavyweight division of all time. It pisses me off when people think he was in the top 5 or even the best! ROFL. Why does he always pop up on p4p lists? He was absolutely ****!
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BTW, but has anyone pointed out how dumb it is to say Rock ducked Liston? Like, serious, just check Boxrec if you can't bother to read and be educated. Liston was 12-1 when Rock retired in 55 and was in the pokey for a couple years from 56-58.
Is this really a Floyd fan rant?
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Originally posted by crold1 View PostBTW, but has anyone pointed out how dumb it is to say Rock ducked Liston? Like, serious, just check Boxrec if you can't bother to read and be educated. Liston was 12-1 when Rock retired in 55 and was in the pokey for a couple years from 56-58.
Is this really a Floyd fan rant?
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I was obviously taking the piss, but two punk ass qualios will never get it no matter how ****ing obvious I make it. Just like the he would lose to Clinton Woods rant. Nobody is that ****ing ****!
Well the joke is on you now, because the bottomline is he wouldn't have beat him anyway prime V prime. The Night Train would have taken him out. I would even give the inexperienced Liston a chance. I don't need to discredit Marciano. His stigee fanbase and pathetic videos do all the work for me!
You have no answer for the fact that Walcott was old and in ATG terms comparatively slow, but still managed to win lots of rounds. Simple logic dictates a genuine heavy who is fast and strong will decapitate him. It's obvious. The big nosed twat is just a myth perpetuated by white America and it's need for a hero.Last edited by Fernando Torres; 08-05-2008, 12:42 AM.
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Originally posted by poet682006 View PostBanned again!
Poet
How does someone getted banned here? That clown is no great loss, and Im glad he's gone, but it seems he was banned more for ******ity than anything else. Unless of course I've missed a bunch of other stuff in the time I've been here?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
How does someone getted banned here? That clown is no great loss, and Im glad he's gone, but it seems he was banned more for ******ity than anything else. Unless of course I've missed a bunch of other stuff in the time I've been here?
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I reported him for racism the first time. He was bringing up white America in every post and nobody was even taking the bait and mentioning race but him yet he kept going on and on. This board may not be perfect but it shouldn't be used as someone's personal billboard for hate rants.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostI've pointed this out a number of times. The thread starter has no answers for it, its just another fake ass way to try and discredit Marciano.
Absolutely. Anytime anyone in boxing has a historical moment, makes a crowning achievement, breaks a record, etc etc, there will be a Floyd stan in tow waiting to dismiss the moment as overrated.
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