Top 10 Lightheavies All time

[Obama]

Fighters make the titles worthy, not the other way around. Would you say Ruiz is a better fighter than Ray Mercer because he held the WBA belt and Mercer only the WBO belt?? Guess not.

Difference is Ray Mercer actually either beat or had controversial losses to the best fighters in his division. The fact that he was also WBO Champ is meaningless. That was a paper accomplishment. Who the hell did Dariusz beat or almost beat that was great? A faded Hill that was over rated in the first place?

[Benncollinsaad]

Difference is Ray Mercer actually either beat or had controversial losses to the best fighters in his division. The fact that he was also WBO Champ is meaningless. That was a paper accomplishment. Who the hell did Dariusz beat or almost beat that was great? A faded Hill that was over rated in the first place?

Pardon me, but now youre talking crap. Hill was not faded or over rated. Had Dariusz been an American, I think you'd consider that a GREAT victory, am I wrong?

[Obama]

Pardon me, but now youre talking crap. Hill was not faded or over rated. Had Dariusz been an American, I think you'd consider that a GREAT victory, am I wrong?

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He's definitely over rated. We've gone down that path before, no need to expose Hill again, unless someone really is craving to see it.

He debuted in '84, he fought Dariusz in '97, he was exposed as a hype job in '91, and he had a close fight with Lou Del Valle of all people 2 fights before Dariusz. You see, that's the one thing Hill could always do in his prime that didn't show up in '96 against Valle, beat B level fighters easily.

And please with this American bias crap. Dariusz wasn't even as good as Joe Calzaghe, albeit his level of opposition was slightly better.

[Mr Boxing9]

I think Charles is the best LHW of all time, how he never got a title shot is criminal.

Am in the process of looking for footage of Ezzard Charles vs Archie Moore, they fought 3 times and Charles beat him all 3.

[Benncollinsaad]

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He's definitely over rated. We've gone down that path before, no need to expose Hill again, unless someone really is craving to see it.

He debuted in '84, he fought Dariusz in '97, he was exposed as a hype job in '91, and he had a close fight with Lou Del Valle of all people 2 fights before Dariusz. You see, that's the one thing Hill could always do in his prime that didn't show up in '96 against Valle, beat B level fighters easily.

And please with this American bias crap. Dariusz wasn't even as good as Joe Calzaghe, albeit his level of opposition was slightly better.

You are also somewhat overated as an expert, I see that know!

[Obama]

You are also somewhat overated as an expert, I see that know!

Who said I was an expert?

I take it as a compliment. Over rated expert > knowledgeable nobody.

[Steak]

I dont know, I thought Hill was a pretty good fighter. A lot of his title defenses were against fluff, but he did beat guys like Leslie Stewart, Bobby Cysz, Kinchen, Frank Tate, Adolpho Washington, Lou De Vale, Henry Maske and imo his wins over Fabrice Tiozzo were pretty impressive.

not to mention he was still relevant at Cruiserweight in his early 40s.

the guy was pretty good.

[Obama]

I also think he was a pretty good fighter. But he definitely wasn't a great fighter. Him and Dariusz are pretty equal in my ATG LHW Rankings. They exist somewhere between 30 and 40.