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  • #41
    With wins over such fighters as Harry Greb, Tiger Flowers, Billy Miske, Gunboat Smith, Battling Siki and some notable heavyweights from his era, where does Kid Norfolk rank amongst the pantheon of great lightheavies?

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    • #42
      All time, who ranks higher at 175, Virgil Hill or Antonio Tarver?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
        All time, who ranks higher at 175, Virgil Hill or Antonio Tarver?
        That can't be a serious question. Hill was the most protected World recognized Champion of all time, but damn, he clearly is a hall of famer and will rate over Tarver among the opinions of historians from now until forevermore.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          With wins over such fighters as Harry Greb, Tiger Flowers, Billy Miske, Gunboat Smith, Battling Siki and some notable heavyweights from his era, where does Kid Norfolk rank amongst the pantheon of great lightheavies?
          Top 50. Maybe top 40.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Obama View Post
            Top 50. Maybe top 40.
            Lightheavyweights!?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Obama View Post
              That can't be a serious question. Hill was the most protected World recognized Champion of all time, but damn, he clearly is a hall of famer and will rate over Tarver among the opinions of historians from now until forevermore.
              I would also rank Hill higher, but Tarver has been getting his props tonight so I was curious what most thought but didn't want to compare him to anybody to strong historicly.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Lightheavyweights!?
                Yea Light Heavyweights, problem?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Obama View Post
                  Yea Light Heavyweights, problem?
                  To each, his own. But I'd be interested in the 40 or 50 lightheavies you have ranked ahead of him.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    To each, his own. But I'd be interested in the 40 or 50 lightheavies you have ranked ahead of him.
                    I didn't count how many people this is, and I'm not saying I'd rate him behind all these guys, and this list most certainly is not in order, but here's a big ass list for you:

                    Archie Moore
                    Ezzard Charles
                    Harold Johnson
                    Gene Tunney
                    Michael Spinks
                    Sam Langford
                    Bob Foster
                    Billy Conn
                    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
                    Kid McCoy
                    Tommy Gibbons
                    Philadelphia Jack O'brie
                    Bob Fitzsimmons
                    Tommy Loughran
                    Maxie Rosenbloom
                    Battling Levinsky
                    Young Stribling
                    John Henry Lewis
                    Jimmy Bivins
                    Roy Jones Jr.
                    Jose Torres
                    Michael Moorer
                    Matthew Saad Muhammad
                    Tiger Jack Fox
                    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
                    Marvin Johnson
                    Eddie Cotton
                    Jack Delaney
                    Dariusz Michalczewski
                    Virgil Hill
                    Chad Dawson
                    Charles Williams
                    Jack Dillon
                    Victor Galindez
                    Joey Maxim
                    Mauro Mina
                    Mike McTigue
                    Last edited by Obama; 09-18-2009, 04:43 AM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Obama View Post
                      I didn't count how many people this is, and I'm not saying I'd rate him ahead of all these guys, and this list most certainly is not in order, but here's a big ass list for you:

                      Archie Moore
                      Ezzard Charles
                      Harold Johnson
                      Gene Tunney
                      Michael Spinks
                      Sam Langford
                      Bob Foster
                      Billy Conn
                      Dwight Muhammad Qawi
                      Kid McCoy
                      Tommy Gibbons
                      Philadelphia Jack O'brie
                      Bob Fitzsimmons
                      Tommy Loughran
                      Maxie Rosenbloom
                      Battling Levinsky
                      Young Stribling
                      John Henry Lewis
                      Jimmy Bivins
                      Roy Jones Jr.
                      Jose Torres
                      Michael Moorer
                      Matthew Saad Muhammad
                      Tiger Jack Fox
                      Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
                      Marvin Johnson
                      Eddie Cotton
                      Jack Delaney
                      Dariusz Michalczewski
                      Virgil Hill
                      Chad Dawson
                      Charles Williams
                      Jack Dillon
                      Victor Galindez
                      Joey Maxim
                      Mauro Mina
                      Mike McTigue

                      In bold are the fighters I disagree about being ranked higher than Norfolk. Others may be arguable with more research.

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